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It's never been easier for the cops to break into your phone

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Re: It's never been easier for the cops to break into your phone

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Post by hairball0 »

treebeard901 wrote: post #29

Along with this, the ISPs, phones and services online all have a close relationship with those requesting access from law enforcement. Rarely would most put up a fight for you or anyone else if your information was requested. There are numerous ways for LE to view and manipulate your online experiences. Your phone can be viewed remotely like remote desktop over your cell connection without your knowledge. Defeating a…

This is very interesting. Would you be able to point to sources where we can learn more about these capabilities? A friend who is usually quite rational has lately been insisting this is happening to them (remote monitoring, harassment via search results and anything with an algorithmic feed). They haven't done anything wrong, but may have gotten on the wrong side of well-connected people, and are now concerned things could escalate (e.g. framing). If there were any indicators on their devices or elsewhere that they could look for, it could be helpful.

Re: It's never been easier for the cops to break into your phone

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Post by rasz »

hollow-moe wrote: post #9
twojacobtwo wrote: post #3

Does anyone know how much of a black box these cellebrite (or competitor) systems are? Like if we could get some into the hands of the best reverse engineers in software and hardware, how difficult might it be to figure out the methods by which they gain access (aside from standard brute force and the like)? Are these unreleased zero day software exploits? Or something that anyone with enough knowledge of of the hard…

A french youtuber got their hands on one and they say the device itself isn't protected at all ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVx5auDj7Hs

Got his hands on one and all he could muster is a talking head video?

Re: It's never been easier for the cops to break into your phone

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Post by rasz »

twojacobtwo wrote: post #3

Does anyone know how much of a black box these cellebrite (or competitor) systems are? Like if we could get some into the hands of the best reverse engineers in software and hardware, how difficult might it be to figure out the methods by which they gain access (aside from standard brute force and the like)? Are these unreleased zero day software exploits? Or something that anyone with enough knowledge of of the hard…

Older system:

Cellebrite UFED Cellphone Forensic Extraction Device Teardown https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LLGGCXH9MQ

UFED - its right in the name :] Video has little demonstration with older phones, one click bypass for all passcodes.

Re: It's never been easier for the cops to break into your phone

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Post by filoleg »

millzlane wrote: post #16
filoleg wrote: post #8

Is there any info yet on what kind of a phone the attacker had? I still cannot find any article about this incident explicitly mentioning not even a specific model, but just whether it was Android or iOS at all. While most of them keep referencing that old San Bernardino story where the attackers had an iPhone with an outdated security model even for the time of the incident (it was iPhone 5c iirc).

Try sorting by date and using an exclusion operater for San Bernardino.

Looks like there is now a confirmation[0] that it was an Android phone.

0. https://9to5mac.com/2024/07/18/trump-shooter-android-phone-c...

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