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Re: Apple iOS6 Preview

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Post by wavephorm »

ryannielsen wrote: post #26
wavephorm wrote: post #2

iOS 6 is not compatible with: iPad 1 Damnit, did I just have an aneurism? Seriously, the iPad 1 isn't old (or doesn't feel old to me), and it came out around the same time as the iPod touch 4th generation, which is supported. I'm really getting sick of this "throw-away hardware" culture that Apple is enforcing.

I'm really getting sick of this "throw-away hardware" culture that Apple is enforcing. Just because iPad 1 can't run iOS 6 doesn't mean it's suddenly "trash". Also, the first iPad is woefully underpowered – thanks to the display, it's quite memory and graphics constrained. It's entirely possible Apple wasn't willing get new iOS features working well on that hardware, especially considering iPad 1's install base is a…

I don't care about new iOS features, or any of their iCloud nonsense, I know it won't support Siri (ipad1 lacked a microphone).

What I do care about is the web browser on my iPad not receiving any software updates... ever. That's a serious problem. Without any software upgrades ever, the iPad will become the future IE. In fact, this is worse because of Apple's closed system they also won't allow 3rd parties to upgrade the software either. That means no new web browsers, audio players, or any other new type of software which might threaten their platform.

Apple wants to pretend that software can't be upgraded because you're using old hardware, which not only is completely retarded, it defeats the purpose of software.

Re: Apple iOS6 Preview

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Post by simonh »

JunkDNA wrote: post #12
Watabou wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And yet the 3GS is supported. I think I'm right in saying that almost no one would have worried too much if Apple had dropped the 3GS too. They would have understood that the 3GS wouldn't be able to run the latest and greatest iOS. The fact that they are supporting the 3GS and not iPad 1 is surprising.

The difference is that you can as of today get a 3GS free with contract. Don't underestimate Apple's desire to push competitors out of the low end of the smartphone market. Steve Jobs always said that the Mac went premium when they should have been going for market share and that Apple wouldn't make such a mistake again. Supporting the 3GS is critical for that. Especially when you consider global expansion. The iPad…

It's likely still a memory issue though rather than anything to do with the CPU. As with the 4th gen touch, it's smaller display on the 3G likely means it has enough memory for enough of iOS 6 features compared to the iPad 1.

Re: Apple iOS6 Preview

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Post by jmelloy »

chuinard wrote: post #21

If you look at the Passbook preview ( http://www.apple.com/ios/ios6/#passbook ), the example is 'John's card' with Starbucks. Johnathan's card anyone?

Their examples almost always use an Apple ID with the name "Johnny Appleseed"

Re: Apple iOS6 Preview

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Post by corysama »

timdorr wrote: post #20

Interesting that the new Maps makes no mention of public transit support. Is that gone completely now? It looks like your app can register as a "router" to support different types of navigation routing, but it would suck if that is no longer built in.

That would be a hang-up for me. I'm pretty dependent on Maps for busing around to random destinations in SF...

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Post by rflrob »

One of my greatest points of irritation with the old Maps app is that there are no scale bars. People working on Google Maps have told me it's Apple's problem, and Apple employees (though granted not people directly involved with iOS) have told me it's Google's problem. Maybe now that it's all under one roof, someone can figure out how to put them in...

Re: Apple iOS6 Preview

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Post by astral303 »

Maps with turn-by-turn navigation (long overdue) and transit APIs sound very promising. Having portable maps is one of the key strengths of a smartphone and this kind of lower-level integration now kicks it up a notch. He mentioned "biking and hiking" for the transit apps: that's exciting!

Also, turn-by-turn navigation has this "overview" mode--tap it and you exit the forced-point-of-view navigation and get to pan around the map in 2D mode. This is critical for being able to inspect the area for improvised routes. In the past, this has not been easy to do on all my old-school GPS navigation devices, including a Tom Tom hardware unit of a year ago. Cannot compare to Google Navigation or Tom Tom on the iPhone, so it would be great if anyone familiar with those can chime in.

Fully vector maps (no more f'king double tap to get that shit at pixel-perfect view) and much more legible traffic marking (such that it doesn't kill the name of the street) are two minor changes that will have a major impact for me personally.

Re: Apple iOS6 Preview

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Post by stock_toaster »

fjarlq wrote: post #15
wavephorm wrote: post #2

iOS 6 is not compatible with: iPad 1 Damnit, did I just have an aneurism? Seriously, the iPad 1 isn't old (or doesn't feel old to me), and it came out around the same time as the iPod touch 4th generation, which is supported. I'm really getting sick of this "throw-away hardware" culture that Apple is enforcing.

An iPad 1 is not trash, even though it can't run iOS6. I suspect you'll be surprised how well it holds its value when you resell yours.

Not to mention that, but you can jailbreak it and install things via cydia.

Re: Apple iOS6 Preview

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Post by mtgx »

ryannielsen wrote: post #26
wavephorm wrote: post #2

iOS 6 is not compatible with: iPad 1 Damnit, did I just have an aneurism? Seriously, the iPad 1 isn't old (or doesn't feel old to me), and it came out around the same time as the iPod touch 4th generation, which is supported. I'm really getting sick of this "throw-away hardware" culture that Apple is enforcing.

I'm really getting sick of this "throw-away hardware" culture that Apple is enforcing. Just because iPad 1 can't run iOS 6 doesn't mean it's suddenly "trash". Also, the first iPad is woefully underpowered – thanks to the display, it's quite memory and graphics constrained. It's entirely possible Apple wasn't willing get new iOS features working well on that hardware, especially considering iPad 1's install base is a…

It supports iPhone 3GS, though, but that does have lower resolution.

Re: Apple iOS6 Preview

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Post by whalesalad »

rflrob wrote: post #35

One of my greatest points of irritation with the old Maps app is that there are no scale bars. People working on Google Maps have told me it's Apple's problem, and Apple employees (though granted not people directly involved with iOS) have told me it's Google's problem. Maybe now that it's all under one roof, someone can figure out how to put them in...

I wish the zoom slider existed too. Sometimes I cannot afford to use two hands to pinch-squeeze and it would be nice to adjust zoom level with one finger.
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