I found one these all-in-one units out on sidewalk and thought I had scored a cool freebie. It was nearly new. Now I know why they threw it away. Total garbage and bricked without that HP+ subscription. Can't use the scanner because the ink is too low. The worst part is that I couldn't even reset the printer to use a new subscription! It was tied to the previous owner at a hardware level and support said I had to con…
HP discontinues online-only LaserJet printers in response to backlash
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Re: HP discontinues online-only LaserJet printers in response to backlash
#32Did the people that bought these things expect something else?
How could normal people expect that they would be sold such utter garbage?
Especially since older printers have worked just fine.
The only way to expect this is you've experienced it yourself or if you've followed news sites like HN where techies complain about shit like this.
Re: HP discontinues online-only LaserJet printers in response to backlash
#33I found one these all-in-one units out on sidewalk and thought I had scored a cool freebie. It was nearly new. Now I know why they threw it away. Total garbage and bricked without that HP+ subscription. Can't use the scanner because the ink is too low. The worst part is that I couldn't even reset the printer to use a new subscription! It was tied to the previous owner at a hardware level and support said I had to con…
In Germany, walk down the street to the print shop with a USB drive and give them about 10 cents per page.
Re: HP discontinues online-only LaserJet printers in response to backlash
#34Somewhere in the HP hierarchy reality is removed. I feel like at least one of the lower level people saw this coming. Somewhere in the management layers this became a good idea, an idea completely removed from reality.
The only logic that makes sense is that you have a segment of users that doesn't need to print much, so rather than doing a large upfront purchase, they basically rent a printer, but where is the break even for HP, where is the break even for the customer? When you cancel your subscription does the printer then go back to HP for refurbishment so that another customer can rent it? I doubt it, it becomes e-waste.
The article even says: "To provide our customers with an exceptional printing experience in all office environments, we will no longer offer LaserJet series products with HP+. " So the HP+ didn't provide exceptional printing experiences? I could understand the reasoning that "Some customers purchased an HP product that would not work in their environment, so we're now more clearly communicating the limitations of HP+", but no, they are cancelling it entirely, so it's not about those office environments where always online didn't work. This is an entirely predictably failure of a product, except HP management wasn't smart enough to realise it, because they f-ing priorities are not their customers.
Re: HP discontinues online-only LaserJet printers in response to backlash
#35I found one these all-in-one units out on sidewalk and thought I had scored a cool freebie. It was nearly new. Now I know why they threw it away. Total garbage and bricked without that HP+ subscription. Can't use the scanner because the ink is too low. The worst part is that I couldn't even reset the printer to use a new subscription! It was tied to the previous owner at a hardware level and support said I had to con…
There's plenty of innovation left. What about a built-in cutting, binding or folding mechanism?
What about a built-in QR like binary converter for paper backing up of crucial files and some way to feed them back in through ADF scanning?
What about a built-in filter to printer feature of email so things like orders get auto printed? Something that has heat transfer built-in for optional inkless printing? A flatbed that can do UV and IR scanning? Some kind of release mechanism that makes fixing a paper jam trivial?
How about an API with MQTT so you can integrate it in a automated production pipeline much easier.
What about moving beyond the box? Could there be a way to stack the feed vertically and print, also vertically, to conserve space?
Printing as an industry could be blown open to innovation but I guess we can't have nice things
Re: HP discontinues online-only LaserJet printers in response to backlash
#36Did the people that bought these things expect something else?
That's exactly what happened. My old home HP printer is about 16 years old and still rock solid. If I didn't know any better I would be recommending the brand to everyone I know. Not everyone is as depressingly online as the HN community.
It's like clear-cutting and strip mining a brand
Re: HP discontinues online-only LaserJet printers in response to backlash
#37I have a HP LaserJet 4050TN released in 1999. Still printing away. Zero scamology. Imagine all the effort they've made since then to make their products terrible.
Re: HP discontinues online-only LaserJet printers in response to backlash
#38I found one these all-in-one units out on sidewalk and thought I had scored a cool freebie. It was nearly new. Now I know why they threw it away. Total garbage and bricked without that HP+ subscription. Can't use the scanner because the ink is too low. The worst part is that I couldn't even reset the printer to use a new subscription! It was tied to the previous owner at a hardware level and support said I had to con…
"bricked without that HP+ subscription. Can't use the scanner because the ink is too low. The worst part is that I couldn't even reset the printer to use a new subscription! It was tied to the previous owner at a hardware level and support said I had to contact them to release their account, even though it was no longer active." Nice everything is wrong beyond redemption, basically toxic eWaste that somehow manage to…
Re: HP discontinues online-only LaserJet printers in response to backlash
#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
In Germany, walk down the street to the print shop with a USB drive and give them about 10 cents per page.
Then walk one kilometer and cross the border to France and it's... 50 cents/page. So totally not viable of you have any significant printing to do.
Re: HP discontinues online-only LaserJet printers in response to backlash
#40What I find extremely annoying is that no one is charge saw this coming. How stupid do you need to be to release an online-only subscription laser printer? Somewhere in the HP hierarchy reality is removed. I feel like at least one of the lower level people saw this coming. Somewhere in the management layers this became a good idea, an idea completely removed from reality. The only logic that makes sense is that you h…