Dupe of https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40696384 no idea why that was flagged
I was at AMD in the mid-late 2000s helping design CPU/APU/GPUs
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Re: I was at AMD in the mid-late 2000s helping design CPU/APU/GPUs
#32People keep yelling about nvidia stock but that feels like a huge bubble. AI disillusionment will hit and the stock will implode. Nvidia hasn’t made any inroads on producing actual systems, just gpus. Once Apple or Microsoft have a fast enough chip (TOPs wise), nobody will care about nvidia lead except in the datacenter. Seems like a failing position to me.
I've worked on AI-hardware software stacks for several well known companies.
It's impossible to overstate to advantages that CUDA, it's documentation, toolchain, and nSight software provide to outside developers.
The closest thing I've seen to nSight Systems software is Intel's VTune. But that's just one piece I'm a much larger puzzle, and last I checked, VTune was only for Intel CPU.
AFAICT, Nvidia's software seriously reduces the ramp-up time for new developers to write kernels or apps that make good use of the available hardware.
E.g., nsys-ui (like VTune) recognizes anomalous profile results, and makes solid suggestions for next steps. I don't know of other software that does this (well), although maybe I'm just uninformed.
Re: I was at AMD in the mid-late 2000s helping design CPU/APU/GPUs
#33I love this insider view into this interesting point in computing history, especially about AMD. However, I was a little put off by the glorification of nVidia's shady practices and lock-in policies as key to their current leading position. While technically true, I dislike "ends justify the means"-style thinking. All this as the OP glorifies AMD's engineering and grit-based culture to drive through all though tough…
Nvidia was pushing CUDA forward for over a decade before it started getting serious commercial traction. It's not like they blocked anyone else from developing viable GPGPU tech, they were just the only ones pushing it.
For like 8 years their drivers on Linux were a nightmare and AMD could have come in and done better.
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#34Is he really trying to say that AMD had a superior product in the Core 2 Duo era and Intel was only dominating due to marketing? It's hard to take any of the rest of his opinions seriously when he starts with that take
Re: I was at AMD in the mid-late 2000s helping design CPU/APU/GPUs
#35I love this insider view into this interesting point in computing history, especially about AMD. However, I was a little put off by the glorification of nVidia's shady practices and lock-in policies as key to their current leading position. While technically true, I dislike "ends justify the means"-style thinking. All this as the OP glorifies AMD's engineering and grit-based culture to drive through all though tough…
On the GPU area AMD lost, and will continue to lose to Nvidia, because they don't seem to get a grip on Software and Drivers. And that does not bode well for their long time CEO.
I mean for gaming workloads AMD GPUs are doing fine in the Xbox, PlayStation, and Steam Deck consoles.
Re: I was at AMD in the mid-late 2000s helping design CPU/APU/GPUs
#36Minor curiosity point....
Does anyone know why engg has two g's here?
I'm sure it mean engineering but i've never seen that abbreviation, he motioned he's from India, is that where this comes from or is it just an individual quirk?
Re: I was at AMD in the mid-late 2000s helping design CPU/APU/GPUs
#37I love this insider view into this interesting point in computing history, especially about AMD. However, I was a little put off by the glorification of nVidia's shady practices and lock-in policies as key to their current leading position. While technically true, I dislike "ends justify the means"-style thinking. All this as the OP glorifies AMD's engineering and grit-based culture to drive through all though tough…
On the GPU area AMD lost, and will continue to lose to Nvidia, because they don't seem to get a grip on Software and Drivers. And that does not bode well for their long time CEO.
Re: I was at AMD in the mid-late 2000s helping design CPU/APU/GPUs
#38I love this insider view into this interesting point in computing history, especially about AMD. However, I was a little put off by the glorification of nVidia's shady practices and lock-in policies as key to their current leading position. While technically true, I dislike "ends justify the means"-style thinking. All this as the OP glorifies AMD's engineering and grit-based culture to drive through all though tough…
Nvidia was pushing CUDA forward for over a decade before it started getting serious commercial traction. It's not like they blocked anyone else from developing viable GPGPU tech, they were just the only ones pushing it. For like 8 years their drivers on Linux were a nightmare and AMD could have come in and done better.
The obvious issue with both your points is that NVidia's competitors did do as such.
AMD has had workable Linux drivers for many years now and there were numerous alternatives to CUDA pushed.
Re: I was at AMD in the mid-late 2000s helping design CPU/APU/GPUs
#39https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1809135345683841050
This should be the article link. As a non-X user the message thread in the original post doesn't work.
It's insane how Twitter of late is weaponizing "doesn't exist" and "cannot display" messages as loginwall and impressions control. It won't reproduce at the side of first class citizens with industrialized means of buzzing, so posters won't notice until subhuman class gather and speak up outside of the system. Crazy stuff.
Re: I was at AMD in the mid-late 2000s helping design CPU/APU/GPUs
#40I love this insider view into this interesting point in computing history, especially about AMD. However, I was a little put off by the glorification of nVidia's shady practices and lock-in policies as key to their current leading position. While technically true, I dislike "ends justify the means"-style thinking. All this as the OP glorifies AMD's engineering and grit-based culture to drive through all though tough…
Yeah, I really feel like AMD is struggling with the software aspect. Even back when they were ATI and AMD bought them, the ATI drivers were garbage compared to Nvidia (from my PC gaming experience). After a few AMD and ATI cards, I just accepted the Nvidia tax, where my cards are more expensive and on paper worse, but in practice worked better. I'm really surprised AMD isn't throwing a whole bunch of money on emulati…
I'm not sure emulating CUDA would be legal, you can look at ZLUDA as an example. It was originally funded by AMD, but got cut for what I presume would be legal reasons. ZLUDA does work amazingly well though from my experience!