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Ladybird Web Browser becomes a non-profit with $1M from GitHub Founder

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Re: Ladybird Web Browser becomes a non-profit with $1M from GitHub Founder

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I really appreciate someone taking a stab at a project of this scale, but is it really worth discussing for like the 70th time when even the alpha is two years away? https://hn.algolia.com/?q=ladybird

It’s okey to flag duplicates, the poster won’t get penalized.

Of course I flag them, but I feel like at this point people just post every conceivable URL related to this pre-alpha project for free karma.

Oh the homepage was discussed yesterday? Let's add /index.html and resubmit it!

Re: Ladybird Web Browser becomes a non-profit with $1M from GitHub Founder

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Hello friends, Ladybird founder here! Here's a short video from Chris Wanstrath announcing our non-profit yesterday, and kicking things off with a $1M donation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9edTqPMX_k Happy to answer questions :)

If Ladybird is "forked" from SerenityOS now, does that mean the mainline won't run on Serenity any longer?

That’s right. A version of Ladybird remains in the SerenityOS repo, and people are cherry-picking changes as we go.

Over time, I expect them to diverge enough that this becomes impractical, as Ladybird now allows 3rd party code while SerenityOS does not. It’s up to the SerenityOS community how to handle this.

Re: Ladybird Web Browser becomes a non-profit with $1M from GitHub Founder

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>Why build a new browser in C++ when safer and more modern languages are available? >Ladybird started as a component of the SerenityOS hobby project, which only allows C++. The choice of language was not so much a technical decision, but more one of personal convenience. Andreas was most comfortable with C++ when creating SerenityOS, and now we have almost half a million lines of modern C++ to maintain. >However, now…

So half a million lines of tech debt?

I think that's too pessimistic. The code is there and it can be used to push the project forward. If some part of it is not good enough, then an alternative implementation can be created (potentially in a different language)

Re: Ladybird Web Browser becomes a non-profit with $1M from GitHub Founder

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s okey to flag duplicates, the poster won’t get penalized.

Of course I flag them, but I feel like at this point people just post every conceivable URL related to this pre-alpha project for free karma. Oh the homepage was discussed yesterday? Let's add /index.html and resubmit it!

Also some accounts have flagging disabled ie your flags might not do anything

Re: Ladybird Web Browser becomes a non-profit with $1M from GitHub Founder

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I'm too used to my Firefox with tree-style tabs and Vim controls to go back to a regular layout. This also makes me a bit of a tab hoarder, though. I'd say "I'll be keeping an eye on this," but I'm sure there'll be plenty of posts about Ladybird before the alpha even drops, haha.

> I'm too used to my Firefox with tree-style tabs and Vim controls to go back to a regular layout.

Tree-style tabs could be a core feature. Maybe this is something you can contribute to the project?

Re: Ladybird Web Browser becomes a non-profit with $1M from GitHub Founder

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post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's the pitch for those who currently use firefox?

Something about only being a browser company? Mozilla is many things, but purely browser focused is not it.

I would say the browser it’s not even in their mind at this point. High level people inside Mozilla not only implied but said it directly.

Re: Ladybird Web Browser becomes a non-profit with $1M from GitHub Founder

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Hello friends, Ladybird founder here! Here's a short video from Chris Wanstrath announcing our non-profit yesterday, and kicking things off with a $1M donation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9edTqPMX_k Happy to answer questions :)

Congratulations on the kick-off! Now that Ladybird is no longer a part of SerenityOS, will you consider a switch to a licence which not only grants, but also protects user freedoms (e.g. the GPL, MPL, EUPL)?

Also, any thoughts on having official communication channels on some open, freedom-respecting platforms, rather than Discord only?

Re: Ladybird Web Browser becomes a non-profit with $1M from GitHub Founder

#39
Nitpick (or is it?) but the website is soulless and just bad. The website design communicates that this is just another immature project, desperately looking for a VC funding, just following modern design trends where "design == aesthetics". Yuck.

I am happy to see the project thrive.

Re: Ladybird Web Browser becomes a non-profit with $1M from GitHub Founder

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I wonder what would happen if Ladybird matures well to compete with Firefox and Chrome (hope so), and it's just forked away by some company and completely closed down in a whim, because BSD-2 allows that.

And so? Yes people (and companies) would fork your code, but the most realistic scenario would be that the original ladybird would still be the most relevant browser of it's family, just like firefox, so the problem kinda resolves by itself
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