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Coup Attempt in Bolivia

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Bolivia has been independent since 1825 and has since then experienced over 190 coups. Nobody can whitewash US involvement in South and Central America in the 20th century, but the US is not the sole cause of Bolivian instability. Perhaps it makes more sense to blame colonialism, which set up the unstable rural/urban indigenous/white duality that has made the place so fragile.

And how long has it been since the last US backed coup in Bolivia?

Silence reigns on the US-backed coup against Evo Morales in Bolivia (2020):

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/sep/18/silenc...

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And how long has it been since the last US backed coup in Bolivia?

I have no idea. I made a specific argument and was explicit about not immunizing the US for its absolutely wretched involvement with South and Central American politics.

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And how long has it been since the last US backed coup in Bolivia?

Silence reigns on the US-backed coup against Evo Morales in Bolivia (2020): https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/sep/18/silenc...

On the other side Áñez was defeated in the election the following year, and Socialist government resumed without much trouble.

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I have no idea. I made a specific argument and was explicit about not immunizing the US for its absolutely wretched involvement with South and Central American politics.

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"Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith." "Eschew flamebait. Avoid unrelated controversies and generic tangents."

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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A significant part, perhaps. Latin America is very polarized. But apparently not the majority. Luiz Arce got the absolute majority of votes in the last election, which was organized precisely by the group that did the last coup and was against him and his political party.

Arce is the formal head of MAS, which is Morales' party. MAS won a fair election in 2020 after the "coup" in which Jeanine Anez assumed power after Morales fled the country along with the constitutional line of succession after widespread violent protests following an unprecedented 4th term election (which in turn followed his unprecedented 3rd term election, which in turn followed his unprecedented 2nd term election…

> if you care what OAS says, officially deemed fraudulent.

I do not care. Later studies contradicted and criticized OAS conclusion. OAS was a player in the 2019 coup:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/02/26/bolivia-d...

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3621475

> Anez, an unapologetic right-winger appointed by standard constitutional succession rules,

What rules? She was not Evo Morales successor. The correct successors were being persecuted and had access denied to the government buildings. And during Anez illegitimate government, she used violence and the police to attack protesters and to persecute the opposition [1]. They tried to postpone the election, but they had no popular support and their coup was unsustainable.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senkata_and_Sacaba_massacres

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because it's probably backed by the US edit: this was supposed to be a reply

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you’re asking people to prove a negative for reasons that are irrelevant and inconsequential, aside from your hardon for pointing out that the US coup’d some folks

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I’ve been trying to get a sense of how much of the military is actually behind this. Current reporting seems a bit confused. For example, I’ve seen multiple articles say that “2 tanks” are outside the government palace, but I’ve yet to see any photos or videos demonstrating that. All I’ve seen so far are a handful of images like in the article showing uniformed troops, and one video showing an armored vehicle ramming…

Yeah, Bolivian sources also used the word "tanque" for vehicles that clearly were not tanks.
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