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Microsoft insiders worry the company has become just 'IT for OpenAI'

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Re: Microsoft insiders worry the company has become just 'IT for OpenAI'

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Post by mittermayr »

cjk2 wrote: post #11
mittermayr wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This comment is under every single post related to Microsoft. I am 50/50 between Apple and Microsoft operating systems, and quite frankly, I don't notice any ads on Windows. Apple is actually more annoying at times (with their constant upgrade and product release promos). I get that Microsoft keeps making mistakes, but in terms of ads and bad behavior, I'd highly recommend taking a look at what Google has been up to.…

Clearly you have never used the Start Menu before!

I've disabled Personalization from the start, is that why I don't see them perhaps?

Re: Microsoft insiders worry the company has become just 'IT for OpenAI'

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Post by mittermayr »

dagmx wrote: post #22
mittermayr wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This comment is under every single post related to Microsoft. I am 50/50 between Apple and Microsoft operating systems, and quite frankly, I don't notice any ads on Windows. Apple is actually more annoying at times (with their constant upgrade and product release promos). I get that Microsoft keeps making mistakes, but in terms of ads and bad behavior, I'd highly recommend taking a look at what Google has been up to.…

The start menu has had ads since Windows 8. It started off as ads for candy crush and MSN affiliates and has grown from there over the years. I’m very surprised you haven’t noticed it. On early windows 10 it would occupy the right side of the start menu.

On a new setup, I disable personalization, and I think this is why I don't see them perhaps?

Re: Microsoft insiders worry the company has become just 'IT for OpenAI'

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Post by gmerc »

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #2

2 month old article. https://archive.is/bLaDA

Since then - Recall recalled - Copilot+ cut down to a web wrapper - CoPilot+ PC benchmarks faked - CustomGPT support dropped from Copilot - Curb Stomped by Apple actually having a developer platform strategy around AI

Re: Microsoft insiders worry the company has become just 'IT for OpenAI'

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Post by tomrod »

chucke1992 wrote: post #24
natas wrote: post #3

Now that OpenAI has chosen Oracle Cloud, Microsoft is becoming completely irrelevant in the domain of AI, and their "efforts" will soon be regarded as a "cloud clippy"

do you understand that Oracle was chosen in the first because all the cloud providers are running out of the available hardware? Microsoft also partnered with Oracle with the same reason. Oracle has some cloud infra, that nobody is using (lol).

> Oracle has some cloud infra, that nobody is using (lol).

Nor should they, Oracle is awful!

Re: Microsoft insiders worry the company has become just 'IT for OpenAI'

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Post by cjk2 »

mizzao wrote: post #30
cjk2 wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That'd be because MSR was working on stuff for customers, not for shareholders...

MSR was actually working for themselves (researchers who were career paper-publishers aka professors without teaching responsibilities). Source: worked at MSR

That is exactly what working for the customer is. Fundamental technology, research and science.

Re: Microsoft insiders worry the company has become just 'IT for OpenAI'

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Post by throwoutway »

holoduke wrote: post #23

What happens with microsoft if openai fails to become a dominant player that created a new market with significant revenue? I feel like this is gonna end up just like Windows phone did.

This is what I expect will happen. Invest $10B (already happened), then invest another $5B for the sunk cost fallacy, then layoff and close (or divest if they're motivated enough). They'll write this off as a loss and the market will eventually forgive them as they chase the next buzz

Re: Microsoft insiders worry the company has become just 'IT for OpenAI'

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Post by kevinventullo »

cjk2 wrote: post #35
mizzao wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

MSR was actually working for themselves (researchers who were career paper-publishers aka professors without teaching responsibilities). Source: worked at MSR

That is exactly what working for the customer is. Fundamental technology, research and science.

Working for the customer is designing a new graph search algorithm that speeds up formula propagation in Excel by 10%. Working for yourself is designing a new graph search algorithm that’s really cool and gets published in top journals and conferences.

Re: Microsoft insiders worry the company has become just 'IT for OpenAI'

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Post by chucke1992 »

gmerc wrote: post #33
gjsman-1000 wrote: post #2

2 month old article. https://archive.is/bLaDA

Since then - Recall recalled - Copilot+ cut down to a web wrapper - CoPilot+ PC benchmarks faked - CustomGPT support dropped from Copilot - Curb Stomped by Apple actually having a developer platform strategy around AI

> Curb Stomped by Apple actually having a developer platform strategy around AI

Lol no. Intelligence of an apple did not curb stomped anything. Including apples. So far regulators like EU and countries like China curbstomped the fruit intelligence.

Re: Microsoft insiders worry the company has become just 'IT for OpenAI'

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Post by dagmx »

mittermayr wrote: post #32
dagmx wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The start menu has had ads since Windows 8. It started off as ads for candy crush and MSN affiliates and has grown from there over the years. I’m very surprised you haven’t noticed it. On early windows 10 it would occupy the right side of the start menu.

On a new setup, I disable personalization, and I think this is why I don't see them perhaps?

They’ll still pop up regardless of personalization but there are other options to disable them after the fact. Perhaps you did that?

Re: Microsoft insiders worry the company has become just 'IT for OpenAI'

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Post by jononor »

cjk2 wrote: post #13

It's worse than that. They always sacrifice their customers to try and win new business on some fad of the hour. Every fucking time. This has been going on 20 years at least. This is another Windows Phone. They shaft the entire platform for a decade to fulfil some stupid fucked up half baked ideology. Imagine Windows if they invested in their customers rather than their stock price and ego. Imagine if they became a b…

I agree their customers certainly are being sacrificed now.

Windows Phone was very costly, but did not have much negative impact on existing products - Windows/Office etc?

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