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Internet Archive forced to remove 500k books after publishers' court win

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Re: Internet Archive forced to remove 500k books after publishers' court win

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Post by misnome »

chx wrote: post #27

Oh this appeal to the public, pithy empty words about openness and shit. Here's the plain truth: IA ran a gigantic book piracy site during covid. They should've known they won't get away with it. I remember several authors begging them not to do this because it affected their income. I personally thought it monumentally stupid to put the Wayback Machine at risk. They said, there are enough physical books in closed li…

Yes - if the only penalty is having to remove the books, then this should be considered a win for IA.

This dumb move was an existential risk putting all their other work in danger.

Re: Internet Archive forced to remove 500k books after publishers' court win

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Post by WillAdams »

pessimizer wrote: post #23

With this judgement, does this force them to write a tool that determines whether a book is in print or not? Are there any good webservices, or will they just have to scrape Amazon, etc.? I've noticed a lot of their lending library is definitely out of print; is "out-of-print and public domain" just the ars writer's interpretation of the judgement? If it isn't, a tighter awareness of what is in print and out of print…

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Re: Internet Archive forced to remove 500k books after publishers' court win

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MattGaiser wrote: post #26
TaylorAlexander wrote: post #25

There is no greater folly of contemporary human society than the purposeful restriction of such vast and easily shareable repositories of knowledge. Perhaps these schemes made sense in the past but with the advent of the internet and independent groups willing to fund all hosting fees, we should move to models of publishing that do not require this restriction of information. Library genesis exists but necessarily mu…

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Many many authors publish work freely, now more than ever. Without monetary reward.

Here's a tiny tip of the massive iceberg https://independentbookreview.com/2020/07/30/10-free-literar...

Re: Internet Archive forced to remove 500k books after publishers' court win

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Post by TaylorAlexander »

MattGaiser wrote: post #26
TaylorAlexander wrote: post #25

There is no greater folly of contemporary human society than the purposeful restriction of such vast and easily shareable repositories of knowledge. Perhaps these schemes made sense in the past but with the advent of the internet and independent groups willing to fund all hosting fees, we should move to models of publishing that do not require this restriction of information. Library genesis exists but necessarily mu…

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“Every community owns and controls the means of production upon which they depend for their survival.”

Such a system does not exist.

Your obvious point, that individual authors can publish their work freely, does little to change the system that requires government enforced punishment for people who would copy and share information available to them. But it would be unethical to pull the rug out from under authors who depend on that system today, so as I see it the best course of action is to make that system unnecessary through community support of all people, and the only ethical way I see to create that is by community ownership of the means of production.

> If you don’t reward great effort, virtually nobody provides it.

I strongly believe this is false and nonsense. This is propaganda from people who benefit from the system that rewards owners of capital who fear community ownership of the means of production.

Re: Internet Archive forced to remove 500k books after publishers' court win

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MattGaiser wrote: post #26
TaylorAlexander wrote: post #25

There is no greater folly of contemporary human society than the purposeful restriction of such vast and easily shareable repositories of knowledge. Perhaps these schemes made sense in the past but with the advent of the internet and independent groups willing to fund all hosting fees, we should move to models of publishing that do not require this restriction of information. Library genesis exists but necessarily mu…

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Amazing how the open source community was a total failure as predicted!
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