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Social Media Messed Up Our Kids. Now It Is Making Us Ungovernable

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Re: Social Media Messed Up Our Kids. Now It Is Making Us Ungovernable

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Post by demondemidi »

anorangecat wrote: post #21
greatgib wrote: post #2

Again, the usual scarecrow of "internet is corrupting our kids and our minds"... The good excuse to push for population censorship and control. The truth is that the problem is coming from the social society that we prefer to ignore: education collapsing, government and political world having arms wide open to dictatorship when it benefits to them,... Just to remember that a few decades ago, same kind of persons were…

I agree. The world as we knew it ended with 9/11 and the new one has been made progressively worse ever since; mostly because "the war on X" is currently a thing and requires you to give away some of your rights.

War on drugs was the 1980s.

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Post by kminehart »

> You have smaller family sizes; people retreat inside because now they have air conditioning and TV and they’re not out in the front yard socializing as much. So, for a lot of reasons, we begin to lose trust in each other.

I think that a bigger factor is the car-centric city and suburb design that started in the US after World War II. It was intended to give everyone what they wanted; a big house, a yard, consistency, etc., but it prevents anyone without a driver or a car & license from socializing and visiting a "third place." I think that it increased individual isolation even before the internet or social media existed and thus set the foundation for social media to be as big of an influence as it is.

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Post by throwaway199129 »

01HNNWZ0MV43FF wrote: post #10
greatgib wrote: post #2

Again, the usual scarecrow of "internet is corrupting our kids and our minds"... The good excuse to push for population censorship and control. The truth is that the problem is coming from the social society that we prefer to ignore: education collapsing, government and political world having arms wide open to dictatorship when it benefits to them,... Just to remember that a few decades ago, same kind of persons were…

There is a major political party in the US wanting to dismantle education https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025

I'm not sure what you mean by that. The article you linked says they plan to remove federal involvement in education, delegating that responsibility back to the states. From my perhaps naive viewpoint, decentralizing government education seems like it would allow more competing ideas and approaches into classrooms. It's not clear to me why this approach would dismantle education.

Why do you think this approach would dismantle education?

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Post by keiferski »

ninjaoxygen wrote: post #22

It may be an unpopular opinion, but I suspect treating juveniles with kid gloves all the time and the popularization of the view that they are entitled not be exposed to anything that may upset or offend them has lead to less personal resilience. The social media environment does also mean that when subjected to bullying it is amplified by a massive factor that previous generations were not exposed to, so the change…

Yeah I think this is definitely a part of it. The average kid living in NYC a century or two ago was exposed to many more repulsive things on a daily basis than anything social media can come up with today. What's changed is that the expectation of "dealing with it" has evaporated.

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Post by digdugdirk »

subjectsigma wrote: post #16
01HNNWZ0MV43FF wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is a major political party in the US wanting to dismantle education https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025

Disgusting and scary as it is, this is in no way part of the mainstream GOP

I would be extremely careful to dismiss this out of hand. The group includes a large number of people from the Trump administration team, and the main purpose of the plan is to reform the government through loopholes/grey area means to consolidate power in the executive branch - thereby allowing rapid and sweeping changes throughout the government as a whole. Trump would love that, and has sung the praises of dictators and openly said he plans to be a dictator "on day one".

The system isn't designed to handle anything like that, and a ton of damage could be done by a concentrated effort from a group that intentionally refuses to play by the rules/norms.

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Post by javagram »

daft_pink wrote: post #15

My opinion is that it’s just partisan gerrymandering creating safe districts is pushing our politics towards the extremes as both parties run far left and far right candidates in their safe district primary. It gives us candidates out of touch with the overall electorate and unable to compromise.

Partisan gerrymandering doesn’t affect senate or presidential elections (with the small exception of Nebraska and Maine’s electors) yet those elections have also become more partisan and polarized.

Moreover, the growing rural/urban partisan polarization means even non gerrymandered districts that are created by nonpartisan panels or algorithms are frequently left or right polarized. Creating competitive districts would require gerrymandering in many places in the USA.

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Post by 127 »

EncomLab wrote: post #8

While I agree with much of the article - the leap from "social media is making tween girls suicidal" to "adults should not be able to determine what information they choose to consume because then they might vote wrong" is a huge one.

If there was a way to mark people who are shills as shills, and bots and bots, the situation would be much more manageable. The fact is that there is intense hybrid war fought on peoples hearts and minds on every possible informational channel.

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Post by bryanlarsen »

bilvar wrote: post #33
fkyoureadthedoc wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Revealing too much about yourself when you call kids an "it"

Excuse me I'm not a native speaker, what is the gender neutral term to refer to a child?

They or their. It's a little awkward when you're referring to a specific person but becoming less so over time. However, you're referring to a generic person so "they" or "their" would be appropriate even without today's political correctness.
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