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Re: Germany sees company bankruptcies soar

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am not American, and I don't know all the finer details, but weren't a lot of the inflation issues post covid a direct result of Trump's unrestrained borrowing even in a growth economy, all in the name of keeping the stock markets growing as your primary indicator of economic success a big factor? Certainly looking at the UK economy, I can trace back the source of our current problems well beyond the current electi…

No, this has nothing to do with Trump. The USA has been in “unrestrained borrowing” because it’s been funding itself with continuing resolutions rather than a budget since 2009. That means that the extra trillion dollars in 2009 “temporary” stimulus has been added to the debt every year since on top of the prior trajectory. This is easily seen if you look at the relevant graphs on FRED. That said, government borrowin…

> We estimate the ten-year cost of the legislation and executive actions President Trump signed into law was about $8.4 trillion, with interest.

Yep, nothing to do with trump.

https://www.crfb.org/blogs/how-much-did-president-trump-add-...

Re: Germany sees company bankruptcies soar

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The article focuses only on the near time statistics and is missing out the long term statistics as well as effects of the COVID19 pandemic. The effects of the COVID19 pandemic were that the bankruptcies law was temporarily changed, which had the effect that companies that were already on a way to bankruptcy could live longer. That is also the reason why in 2020 the numbers were at a low point for almost 20 years. Th…

Financial journalism that reports a single data point, out of context, without even a historical chart, are a pet peeve of mine. Even worse if they spin a complicated narrative based on this single data point that isn't supported by the broader context.

And then you realize that outside your peeve it's also bullshit all the way down.

https://www.epsilontheory.com/gell-mann-amnesia/

Re: Germany sees company bankruptcies soar

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Of course, we have an energy crisis and too much bureaucracy. Who in their right mind would want to run a company here?

Existing businesses could still exist, but Germans are often too risk-averse to adapt to new reality. I have read about a large bakery which closed because of relatively small increase in operational costs: it didn’t make sense to me as he did not try to change anything to save the business, but the owner was too pissed with good old times being gone forever. In countries like Russia he would be laughed at. The good…

The classic outsider perspective: I can move in several dimensions, why cant they? Cause its diffcult, by law, by the supply and demand of various ressources.

Re: Germany sees company bankruptcies soar

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is there any reason why this post is voted down?

> is there any reason why this post is voted down? Because it presumes the only reason people are voting "right-wing" is because they are reading "doomsday news". Versus, you know, disagreeing with the way the "left wing" have been running things. Not sure why the left are going with "You're not poor, look at these charts" as a political strategy, but unsurprisingly, people aren't buying it...the world over.

Describing liberals as left wing is really frustrating but it demonstrates exactly how liberal politics lead to right-wing authoritarianism and how ineffective liberals are at countering right-wing populism.

If you think this way remember all the left-wing popular movements in recent times, like Occupy Wallstreet, Universal Healthcare, Climate Change, BLM or Palestine Solidarity. Now why do you think liberals in power did absolutely nothing for any of those causes? Why do left-wing protests do nothing if we are ruled by left-wing politicians?

Re: Germany sees company bankruptcies soar

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The article focuses only on the near time statistics and is missing out the long term statistics as well as effects of the COVID19 pandemic. The effects of the COVID19 pandemic were that the bankruptcies law was temporarily changed, which had the effect that companies that were already on a way to bankruptcy could live longer. That is also the reason why in 2020 the numbers were at a low point for almost 20 years. Th…

Not only does the article mention that

"They are also 11.2% more than in the first quarter of 2020 when 4,683 corporate insolvencies were filed before the COVID-19 pandemic had its full impact. The coronavirus pandemic period itself saw special, temporary regulations introduced and low insolvency rates."

Your own statista link shows that the number of bankruptcies was steadily decreasing between 2010-2019, now it's going up again.

Re: Germany sees company bankruptcies soar

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The article focuses only on the near time statistics and is missing out the long term statistics as well as effects of the COVID19 pandemic. The effects of the COVID19 pandemic were that the bankruptcies law was temporarily changed, which had the effect that companies that were already on a way to bankruptcy could live longer. That is also the reason why in 2020 the numbers were at a low point for almost 20 years. Th…

There are some German articles that do talk about it in a bit more detail [0].

It's a mix of reasons 1) Covid grants that delayed bankruptcies, 2) Increase of VAT back to 19% for hospitality industries, 3) Increase in construction costs for construction companies, 4) inflation, 5) disruption in trade

And this is not just traditional industries, even 1 in 10 startups risk bankruptcy. [1]

[0] https://www.tagesschau.de/wirtschaft/konjunktur/studie-insol...

[1] https://www.tagesschau.de/wirtschaft/unternehmen/insolvenzen...

Re: Germany sees company bankruptcies soar

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Me, because the Situation is not really bad?

A serious question: Is the situation better than other economies?

GDP wise Germany economy grew 0.3% in 2023. I think, it's one of the lowest in OECD if not the lowest.
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