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Re: Justin Bieber, Venture Capitalist

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>>mainly because his life is insane Most kids are insane. Such insanity comes because they don't think before they act, they don't worry about risks and so creativity flows instantaneously. I know this as I was insane as a kid. I used to sing at every opportunity and occasion. I won awards at numerous occasions singing devotional songs in Indian classical music genre. I have sung in front of large audiences, in stadi…

"His life in insane" is not the same as "he is insane".

If you define "insane" in the colloquial sense of "unbelievable" or "amazing" or "astounding", then the word works for both sentences. If you define it as "clinically crazy" or "no grip on reality", then it doesn't work for both sentences. I think the gp is clearly going for the prior, not the latter.

Re: Justin Bieber, Venture Capitalist

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"His life in insane" is not the same as "he is insane".

If you define "insane" in the colloquial sense of "unbelievable" or "amazing" or "astounding", then the word works for both sentences. If you define it as "clinically crazy" or "no grip on reality", then it doesn't work for both sentences. I think the gp is clearly going for the prior, not the latter.

Yes the word would work in both, but saying someone has an amazing live still isn't the same as saying that somebody is amazing.

GP was talking about the life he has, not the talent he has, so the "insanity" isn't comparable between his life and that of a child who is talented but has a normal life.

Re: Justin Bieber, Venture Capitalist

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I want to know if he's going to be held responsible for his punching/assaulting the cameraman with moves he learned from mike tyson.

If this whole situation of him assaulting a cameraman is just swept under the rug, with his managers insisting that he never do anything like that again. It will be an indication that news networks can even be bribed to not report on criminal behavior. I think it's funny the managers are trying to cover up all the court proceedings as Justin leaving for a while to do some secret concerts. Galling. I do hope that he fails in life, show me that this world is indeed a meritocracy after all, and that fortune can purchase fame and success for a while. As long as you pay dearly to sustain it.

I wish I had Justin Bieber's Managers propping me up in life, I'd be a world sensation too if that were so.

Re: Justin Bieber, Venture Capitalist

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I want to know if he's going to be held responsible for his punching/assaulting the cameraman with moves he learned from mike tyson. If this whole situation of him assaulting a cameraman is just swept under the rug, with his managers insisting that he never do anything like that again. It will be an indication that news networks can even be bribed to not report on criminal behavior. I think it's funny the managers ar…

I doubt he'll get anything more than a slap on the wrist. Not just because he is famous, but because this is his first offense, he has a clean record, and he's unlikely to be a repeat offender.

Re: Justin Bieber, Venture Capitalist

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I want to know if he's going to be held responsible for his punching/assaulting the cameraman with moves he learned from mike tyson. If this whole situation of him assaulting a cameraman is just swept under the rug, with his managers insisting that he never do anything like that again. It will be an indication that news networks can even be bribed to not report on criminal behavior. I think it's funny the managers ar…

1. Do you actually expect his managers not to try to put a positive spin on it for the media? A celebrity trial is not exactly in the same league as an everyday misdemeanor case. He has a brand and he should (just like Dropbox or Path or whatever) be allowed to defend his brand.

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" I do hope that he fails in life, show me that this world is indeed a meritocracy after all, and that fortune can purchase fame and success for a while. As long as you pay dearly to sustain it. "

This is incredibly harsh. When you say that you "want" him to fail to show you that the world is "indeed a meritocracy", you are implicitly assuming that there is an inherent total ordering in which he comes at the bottom and that this is all that matters. This is a rather flawed assumption for two reasons 1) I am not even sure you can characterize an accurate objective total ordering for music 2) Even if you did, just like in the CS tech world where there are people who are incredibly smart but don't sell their products for a billion dollars, I would argue that musical ability is not really the only thing that matters when it comes to financial success. This is even more true for pop where success is determined by the number of people who enjoy the artist's music (and apparently from Bieber's financial success, it looks like there is a huge bunch of people who like his product and wish to buy it.)

"I wish I had Justin Bieber's Managers propping me up in life, I'd be a world sensation too if that were so."

Remember that he wasn't born with these magical "Managers". He also had to get his break in the wide world before he gets these magical "Managers".

Re: Justin Bieber, Venture Capitalist

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I want to know if he's going to be held responsible for his punching/assaulting the cameraman with moves he learned from mike tyson. If this whole situation of him assaulting a cameraman is just swept under the rug, with his managers insisting that he never do anything like that again. It will be an indication that news networks can even be bribed to not report on criminal behavior. I think it's funny the managers ar…

I don't watch entertainment news or follow gossip sites, so I was unaware that Bieber was in a spot of bother.

I googled for "justin bieber court case" intrigued by your comment about how there was a cover up from Big Media.

Top 3 results for that query?

LA Times MTV CNN

They're doing a really bad job of covering it up.

Re: Justin Bieber, Venture Capitalist

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Justin Bieber blows my mind every time I read about him and I really respect him (mainly because his life is insane and he somehow hasn't screwed it up yet) but his success is much more his management and Justin Bieber (the brand) is a story of how good management can make a success. Just looking at how the entertainment industry works is fascinating, they can create such incredible brands in so little time. Take the…

Let's look at a related industry: amazon made it that 70% of sales are given to the author. Now if the author want he can give money to marketing guys.If he wants to go alone , he can. He controls the process. This has definitely given more market power to book authors(leaving aside amazon power grab). Similar models can be offered to the music industry. They'll just enable artists to get more control over the proces…

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Re: Justin Bieber, Venture Capitalist

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Have either of them been the first investor of something that succeeded yet?

Why do they need to have been the first investor?

It would speak to their personal skills, the difference between "Justin Bieber, Venture Capitalist," and "Justin Bieber(tm), Venture Capitalist."

Frankly, I think stories like this are PR designed to muddy this exact distinction. Forbes.com is certainly not above that kind of thing.

Re: Justin Bieber, Venture Capitalist

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"These deals aren’t equity-for-endorsement trades. Bieber put cash into each one, and few of the companies have promoted their links to the singer. Spotify, which is still working to establish itself in the U.S., wouldn’t even discuss Bieber’s investment." "Bieber has come a long way in the finance department since I first broached the subject with him a bit over a year ago. 'I have a business manager,' he told me at…

Given the monetary value of his time you could argue it an investment on its own, but since he is investing cash I don't see any way this isn't "venture capital".

"all venture capital is private equity"

http://www.privco.com/knowledge-bank/private-equity-and-vent...

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