Oracle Cloud is a bad product and I wouldn't recommend. I'm guessing Oracle practically gifted OpenAI compute to make this possible and that this announcement is the whole purpose (i.e. "look at us, we're equal to AWS/Azure!!! OpenAI runs here!!!"). Oracle and Google Cloud have been doing this stuff constantly .
I've found Oracle's free tier quite generous. I guess OpenAI does as well.
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Re: OpenAI Selects Oracle Cloud Infrastructure to Extend Microsoft Azure AI Platform
#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've found Oracle's free tier quite generous. I guess OpenAI does as well.
It's sort of like a crack dealer's free tier. You know it's going to end miserably but you just can't help yourself.
Pretty sure GCP & AWS employ a lot of ex-Oracle people.
Re: OpenAI Selects Oracle Cloud Infrastructure to Extend Microsoft Azure AI Platform
#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's sort of like a crack dealer's free tier. You know it's going to end miserably but you just can't help yourself.
Not necessarily, use it for testing only (not production) and you will be fine.
Re: OpenAI Selects Oracle Cloud Infrastructure to Extend Microsoft Azure AI Platform
#34Oracle Cloud is a bad product and I wouldn't recommend. I'm guessing Oracle practically gifted OpenAI compute to make this possible and that this announcement is the whole purpose (i.e. "look at us, we're equal to AWS/Azure!!! OpenAI runs here!!!"). Oracle and Google Cloud have been doing this stuff constantly .
I've found Oracle's free tier quite generous. I guess OpenAI does as well.
Re: OpenAI Selects Oracle Cloud Infrastructure to Extend Microsoft Azure AI Platform
#35Lots of negative comments about Oracle. If they're so bad, how come PMs and higher ups keep choosing them? Is there no resistance voice from engineers? Edit: I'm getting downvoted by engineers. I guess they have to vent somehow... How about take your downvote to the PM who's going to sign a new Oracle contract?
A good sales person on a golf course with a VP can do a lot of damage
Re: OpenAI Selects Oracle Cloud Infrastructure to Extend Microsoft Azure AI Platform
#36Lots of negative comments about Oracle. If they're so bad, how come PMs and higher ups keep choosing them? Is there no resistance voice from engineers? Edit: I'm getting downvoted by engineers. I guess they have to vent somehow... How about take your downvote to the PM who's going to sign a new Oracle contract?
Used to work at Oracle. They keep winning deals because at the C-level it's about: - enterprise-grade features - completeness of vision - long term viability - dependable support - availability of talent And no, normally they don't want to hear from engineers.
Re: OpenAI Selects Oracle Cloud Infrastructure to Extend Microsoft Azure AI Platform
#37Lots of negative comments about Oracle. If they're so bad, how come PMs and higher ups keep choosing them? Is there no resistance voice from engineers? Edit: I'm getting downvoted by engineers. I guess they have to vent somehow... How about take your downvote to the PM who's going to sign a new Oracle contract?
Very little of this involves talking to code monkeys, unless there's a technical person who is already well-regarded enough that general managers, C*O, and the like, listen to their opinions.
The engineers in the company are usually sufficiently contemptuous of "politics" and "people pleasing" and "bean counters" and "marketing" that they aren't part of those discussions, because they've already made it clear that they hold the people making the calls in contempt. Oracle sales people are more than happy to fill the gap.
Re: OpenAI Selects Oracle Cloud Infrastructure to Extend Microsoft Azure AI Platform
#38Lots of negative comments about Oracle. If they're so bad, how come PMs and higher ups keep choosing them? Is there no resistance voice from engineers? Edit: I'm getting downvoted by engineers. I guess they have to vent somehow... How about take your downvote to the PM who's going to sign a new Oracle contract?
Used to work at Oracle. They keep winning deals because at the C-level it's about: - enterprise-grade features - completeness of vision - long term viability - dependable support - availability of talent And no, normally they don't want to hear from engineers.
Eventually, after production came to a grinding halt because the storage solution did not work, there was no follow up PR campaign about the abject failure of that partnership. C-suite people can fuck up the easiest decisions because of perks/kick backs.
Re: OpenAI Selects Oracle Cloud Infrastructure to Extend Microsoft Azure AI Platform
#39Lots of negative comments about Oracle. If they're so bad, how come PMs and higher ups keep choosing them? Is there no resistance voice from engineers? Edit: I'm getting downvoted by engineers. I guess they have to vent somehow... How about take your downvote to the PM who's going to sign a new Oracle contract?
Used to work at Oracle. They keep winning deals because at the C-level it's about: - enterprise-grade features - completeness of vision - long term viability - dependable support - availability of talent And no, normally they don't want to hear from engineers.
OCI is cheap; that's the USP.
Re: OpenAI Selects Oracle Cloud Infrastructure to Extend Microsoft Azure AI Platform
#40Oracle Cloud is a bad product and I wouldn't recommend. I'm guessing Oracle practically gifted OpenAI compute to make this possible and that this announcement is the whole purpose (i.e. "look at us, we're equal to AWS/Azure!!! OpenAI runs here!!!"). Oracle and Google Cloud have been doing this stuff constantly .
Possible, as they have lost deals even in countries where they enjoy MFN: https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/news/oracle-ceo-confus... / https://archive.is/zO35B