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The Light Phone III

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Re: The Light Phone III

#31
Oh they seem to have done a really nice job with this, at least based on specs and mockups.

I've been interested in the Light Phone for years but never could commit myself to dealing with so many tradeoffs of the second version.

This is very tempting. Signal would be the one app I miss, other than that basic navigation and a podcast player is really all I use anyway.

Re: The Light Phone III

#32

I'd buy this purely to support a company making phones held together with screws. Oh how I long and wish that my phone had screws. This glued-shut brittle glass box with a puffy time bomb inside makes me sad. It's sad that the concept of a phone with screws makes me so happy.

It’s all about durability. For example, that phone is not going to be up to the standard of an iPhone when it comes to water resistance. What’s better constantly being able to fix your own phone or never needing to fix your phone. It is a spectrum, but I think for environmental and most consumer reasons, one wants it to be more towards the later.

Re: The Light Phone III

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So many services now, including government, are requiring phones for "two step" authentication. There are technically alternatives like receiving a phone call or a secret word lookup table, but those are so impractical to use that I need my phone to be a TOTP device. I was close to putting in a preorder but I will need to see TOTP supported before I can drop my regular smart phone.

An alternative is a really slow and old android phone. One that has a visible lag as it logs in and you have to wait for a minute or so before the apps open.

Doesn't "old android phone" also mean one that's no longer getting security updates? Probably not what you want on a phone that hosts your TOTP tokens.

Re: The Light Phone III

#35
post #22

So many services now, including government, are requiring phones for "two step" authentication. There are technically alternatives like receiving a phone call or a secret word lookup table, but those are so impractical to use that I need my phone to be a TOTP device. I was close to putting in a preorder but I will need to see TOTP supported before I can drop my regular smart phone.

Could a hardware authenticator (Yubikey) be a workaround for this? Or are there services which don't support this?

Re: The Light Phone III

#36

Are these hackable? If I recall correctly v1 and 2 were completely closed, not sure though.

There's a pretty active modding / hacking channel in the Light Phone discord that's out there somewhere. I haven't tried it on my own LP2, but some folks are flashing theirs with alternate versions of Android to get a few additional apps that they need

Re: The Light Phone III

#37
I bought the last version and ran it for a while. The one huge red flag is that they have access to all your contacts and messages via their servers. You can't upload your contacts directly to the phone from a USB cable or import them from a loccal file. You have to go to their website and upload your contacts and then they push them to your phone. The way MMS works is that the messages gets relayed to their servers, which then email it to you. It's an absolute security and privacy disater. Which is really sad, because almost everything else about the phone is pretty good and it's filling a need in the market.

[edit to add] as others mentioned, no TOTP auth app was the other requirement missing

Re: The Light Phone III

#38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> install Signal or Messenger or anything else just makes it dead on arrival imho. ? , that’s literally the selling point, that you cant install those things in this phone duh. Besides, they know what they are doing, they sell pretty well too. They churn out enough of these each year, that foxconn handles their manufacturing for this unit. They must be selling decent numbers in that case.

Personally, my phone is just a tool to use WhatsApp/Signal. 95% of the people I contact via call or message, I do so via WhatsApp/Signal. The remaining 5% are banks or businesses. I understand the appeal for a simple phone, but this one won't work for people like me.

This is tbh, not for people like you. It’s for people who face severe smartphone addiction and social media and youtube usage, and cannot help themselves curb the habit of doom scrolling away their entire day on Phone.

The fact that you, already just use your phone for bare essentials and nothing else. Means, normal smartphones are the best for you. Think of this more like a re-hab pill for addicts :) , normal people dont take rehab meds. This is for people who are facing severe addiction.

I went through that phase several years ago, had to destroy my phone, and went without any phone for 6 months, relied on people to call me only via my computer over VoIP when i was on PC. Picked up a smartphone again once i was finally mentally free.

Re: The Light Phone III

#39
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I would rather get a cheap Android phone with LineageOS and just remove anything I don't want.

I've been tempted by a Light Phone for years but have never made the leap. GrapheneOS and paring my list of apps way down. A homescreen replacement from the F-Droid app store that looks extremely similar to Light Phone's home screen is a nice balance without losing Signal messenger, but I have to say I'm really tempted by this new generation.

I'd say the price is way too high, but hardware isn't easy and they don't seem to be pushing for subscription revenue or selling data.

Re: The Light Phone III

#40
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So many services now, including government, are requiring phones for "two step" authentication. There are technically alternatives like receiving a phone call or a secret word lookup table, but those are so impractical to use that I need my phone to be a TOTP device. I was close to putting in a preorder but I will need to see TOTP supported before I can drop my regular smart phone.

You could use something like this as a companion to the phone - a standalone TOTP device. More secure than a phone too since it can't be remotely hacked (though it might require USB for programming, so it's not completely immune to hacking)

https://www.token2.com/shop/product/molto-2-v2-multi-profile...

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