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Noam Chomsky 'no longer able to talk' after 'medical event'

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Re: Noam Chomsky 'no longer able to talk' after 'medical event'

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Post by nsguy »

graphe wrote: post #19
defrost wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The comment in question was edited. The original comment was simply ב"ה or בס״ד https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Besiyata_Dishmaya

Is it like inshallah? https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/إن_شاء_الله > if it is God’s will (literally, “if God has willed [it]” >In sarcastic contexts, it suggests that the speaker has no interest in making the future event occur (thus, it will only occur if God steps in and wills it). Unlike the Arabic usage, this seems to be more attested in English than the literal meaning. I've heard it used in terms of avoiding the…

In religious circles it's not uncommon to prefix each and every writing with that. It's very generic sort of implying god is everywhere. So in writing, in that context, it has no real special significance other than to hint the writer is religious.

In some contexts Inshallah and "Bae Ezarat Hashem" could I guess have similar meanings. E.g. in the Wikipedia example: "I will visit my relatives in Riyadh this summer, God willing." it can be used exactly the same way.

Re: Noam Chomsky 'no longer able to talk' after 'medical event'

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Post by emptysongglass »

ignoramous wrote: post #26
fortran77 wrote: post #2

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I couldn't tell if you meant Minsky or Chomsky. Chomsky has doubled down on some pretty terrible positions into his old age, including "Ukraine asked for it" when it came to Russia's invasion of Ukraine or a continuous stream of apologies and whataboutisms for regimes who resemble his ideal politics in name only

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Post by arresin »

benbreen wrote: post #28
cbanek wrote: post #11

I actually emailed Noam Chomsky asking questions about Manufacturing Consent and actually got a reply. I always thought he was really cool for being so accessible to those who just had honest questions. I really hope he gets well soon.

Same. I emailed him about whether he'd ever met Margaret Mead, John C. Lilly, or Gregory Bateson in the 1960s while researching my book. I got this reply within hours: "Afraid I never met any of those you mention, though I’ve followed their work for many years. I’ve never been close to intellectual elite circles, including people I very much admire." The time stamp for my email was Tuesday, Nov 26, 2019 at 2:19 PM. I…

> I’ve never been close to intellectual elite circles

That is very humble

Re: Noam Chomsky 'no longer able to talk' after 'medical event'

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Post by hi-v-rocknroll »

Nooooooooooooooo...... How will colorless green ideas sleep furiously? :'[

Will miss his interviews on various forums often posted on YT and appearances on Democracy Now.

Classic: Yanis Varoufakis with Professor Noam Chomsky at NYPL, April 16, 2016 | DiEM25

https://youtu.be/szIGZVrSAyc

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Post by exe34 »

arresin wrote: post #33
benbreen wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same. I emailed him about whether he'd ever met Margaret Mead, John C. Lilly, or Gregory Bateson in the 1960s while researching my book. I got this reply within hours: "Afraid I never met any of those you mention, though I’ve followed their work for many years. I’ve never been close to intellectual elite circles, including people I very much admire." The time stamp for my email was Tuesday, Nov 26, 2019 at 2:19 PM. I…

> I’ve never been close to intellectual elite circles That is very humble

is this sarcasm? I read it as "I'm not welcome to parties because I don't toe the line"

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Post by feedforward »

turndown wrote: post #29

Intellectual giant whose shadow will be cast deep into the future. I don't need to review any of his work wrt to CS or linguistics to tell you that his legacy will be massive. I think Manufacturing Consent should go down as one of the most important books ever written in our culture. He was right about much, but wrong about much also. His beliefs on Cambodia strain credulity and I still have trouble separating that C…

The US began arming the "Khmer Rouge" (whatever that means) in 1979 as well as protecting them in the UN, so the equivalence seems pretty valid to me.

Not to mention the US 1970 invasion of Cambodia and concurrent CIA-backed overthrow of the Cambodian government, which including shooting dead US students who protested against it at Kent State and Jackson State, or the US carpet bombing of Cambodia during and after Operation Freedom Deal.

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Post by ein0p »

feedforward wrote: post #38
turndown wrote: post #29

Intellectual giant whose shadow will be cast deep into the future. I don't need to review any of his work wrt to CS or linguistics to tell you that his legacy will be massive. I think Manufacturing Consent should go down as one of the most important books ever written in our culture. He was right about much, but wrong about much also. His beliefs on Cambodia strain credulity and I still have trouble separating that C…

The US began arming the "Khmer Rouge" (whatever that means) in 1979 as well as protecting them in the UN, so the equivalence seems pretty valid to me. Not to mention the US 1970 invasion of Cambodia and concurrent CIA-backed overthrow of the Cambodian government, which including shooting dead US students who protested against it at Kent State and Jackson State, or the US carpet bombing of Cambodia during and after Op…

I recall vehemently disagreeing with Chomsky on many things when I was much younger, but then I somehow stumbled upon Howard Zinn’s “People’s history of the United States” and realized the version of history I knew was basically concentrated propaganda I was brainwashed into believing. That opened the door to understanding Chomsky. “Manufacturing consent” explains our present state of affairs really well.

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Post by turndown »

feedforward wrote: post #38
turndown wrote: post #29

Intellectual giant whose shadow will be cast deep into the future. I don't need to review any of his work wrt to CS or linguistics to tell you that his legacy will be massive. I think Manufacturing Consent should go down as one of the most important books ever written in our culture. He was right about much, but wrong about much also. His beliefs on Cambodia strain credulity and I still have trouble separating that C…

The US began arming the "Khmer Rouge" (whatever that means) in 1979 as well as protecting them in the UN, so the equivalence seems pretty valid to me. Not to mention the US 1970 invasion of Cambodia and concurrent CIA-backed overthrow of the Cambodian government, which including shooting dead US students who protested against it at Kent State and Jackson State, or the US carpet bombing of Cambodia during and after Op…

I worded that part poorly, and did not bring up what really bothers me about it, that he tried to deny that there was a genocide in Cambodia. I agree with what you said. The idea that the US is innocent in Cambodia or really anything going on in that part of the world at that time is beyond false.
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