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Adobe Swears It's Not Training Its A.I. On Your Photoshops
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#32Adobe cannot be trusted. They force you to agree to the ToS even to stop using their apps! You cannot even uninstall Adobe CC apps without using the Creative Cloud app, and you can't use the CC app without agreeing to the ToS. I used CC mostly on my mac studio, but I had it also installed on a older windows machine. I have cancelled my subscription, then cancelled my account; I had to agree to the ToS to uninstall th…
Adobe's shenanigans are bad, but I put a lot of the blame here on Windows and its persistent refusal to implement a decent way to uninstall programs without using a vendor-provided binary/script.
It boggles my mind that Windows has no concept of "track what files and registry entries are from what apps, so we can uninstall apps even if the vendor is an asshole/malware distributor/etc", and the corollary "a page that shows what apps still have files or registry entries on the system".
This is worsened by heavy use of the registry, which allows apps to spread files all over the filesystem in a way that is very difficult for users to follow. It's further worsened by the uselessness of Task Manager (it's nearly unfit for purpose, especially considering the bizarre number of strange processes running on even a clean Windows install). Then add in opaque things like svchost.exe and it's very, very hard to tell whether there are any processes left over from an install.
Windows really needs to add better uninstall or cleanup tools for that kind of stuff. Maybe a way to audit what files and registry keys apps access, so users (or a tool) can cross-check them after an app is uninstalled. Maybe some kind of "this app has been running in the background but you haven't interacted with it in X months" info display. Maybe some kind of "you uninstalled app X but I found a folder named X in %appdata%" tools.
It really gives Windows a bad name that no one can trust that uninstalls of apps actually work.
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#33Adobe cannot be trusted. They force you to agree to the ToS even to stop using their apps! You cannot even uninstall Adobe CC apps without using the Creative Cloud app, and you can't use the CC app without agreeing to the ToS. I used CC mostly on my mac studio, but I had it also installed on a older windows machine. I have cancelled my subscription, then cancelled my account; I had to agree to the ToS to uninstall th…
Adobe's shenanigans are bad, but I put a lot of the blame here on Windows and its persistent refusal to implement a decent way to uninstall programs without using a vendor-provided binary/script. It boggles my mind that Windows has no concept of "track what files and registry entries are from what apps, so we can uninstall apps even if the vendor is an asshole/malware distributor/etc", and the corollary "a page that…
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#34Big Tech promises are without meaning.
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#36They want to talk with me about my adblocker but I don’t have one. Orion is a zero telemetry browser.
dear Slate. I swear that I closed the tab and did not read anything behind your weneedtotalkaboutyouradblocker popup, scout’s honor. And I am not going to read the comments either
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#37Yeah? How about put it in writing with the CEO signature?
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Graphics software was solved decades ago, if graphics professionals can't move as comfortably between these alternatives as easily as a construction worker can move between two nearly identical hammers, they have a skill issue. Adobe users have some of the worst Stockholm Syndrome in the tech world, and they should be scorned and mocked the same as MS and Apple users. You'll eat what you're served. What are you going to do, take your business elsewhere?
It's time to move from coddling to tough love.
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#39Adobe cannot be trusted. They force you to agree to the ToS even to stop using their apps! You cannot even uninstall Adobe CC apps without using the Creative Cloud app, and you can't use the CC app without agreeing to the ToS. I used CC mostly on my mac studio, but I had it also installed on a older windows machine. I have cancelled my subscription, then cancelled my account; I had to agree to the ToS to uninstall th…
Adobe's shenanigans are bad, but I put a lot of the blame here on Windows and its persistent refusal to implement a decent way to uninstall programs without using a vendor-provided binary/script. It boggles my mind that Windows has no concept of "track what files and registry entries are from what apps, so we can uninstall apps even if the vendor is an asshole/malware distributor/etc", and the corollary "a page that…
> I put a lot of the blame here on Windows and its persistent refusal to implement a decent way to uninstall programs without using a vendor-provided binary/script.
While the install & uninstall process certainly be criticized. The fact remains that the uninstall script is made by Adobe. They deserve credit for all dark patterns that script contains.
Other systems have similarly opaque places where configuration can be left. Look at dot file structures, gconf, et al. on linux. As well as Preferences, extensions, input managers, Library folders on Mac.
Until we get a system that is entirely containerized, this will continue to be an issue.
We should probably keep the focus on Adobe lest we distract from their bad practices.
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#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
So if they can't do it, how come they did? If push comes to shove what is worth more in court? I mean you are correct in that public statements are not worth nothing , but Adobe customers would be incredibly naive if they took this as a guarantee that their data is safe with Adobe. In doubt their ToS are the real test. If they won't use, or didn't plan to use their users data in such way: Why did they add that to the…
I did not claim that they can't do it.
Granted. However I didn't claim that them writing one thing in their ToS and another thing on twitter was a bulletproof legal strategy. I didn't even say it was a sound legal strategy. What I said is, that Adobe customers cannot trust them not to do it purely based on the fact that their ToS say one thing and some employee on twitter says something else. If anything that would leave their customers with some reasonable doubt until they clarify that ToS section.