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Re: Betula – federated bookmarking software for the independent web

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Post by brunoarueira »

haunter wrote: post #24

My main problem with bookmarks that I forget about them. I don't need a bookmark keeping service, I need one which would bring them forward when I look for something, based on context too. Something like which also makes a plain text searchable snapshot of the page? Maybe LLMs can solve that.

I'd the same problem and thinking a little bit, maybe a browser extension integrated with LLMs and services like betula?

Re: Betula – federated bookmarking software for the independent web

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Post by bsnnkv »

haunter wrote: post #24

My main problem with bookmarks that I forget about them. I don't need a bookmark keeping service, I need one which would bring them forward when I look for something, based on context too. Something like which also makes a plain text searchable snapshot of the page? Maybe LLMs can solve that.

You're nearly there my friend: bookmarks should be centered around content and not around links.[1]

I've written a lot about this, and I got so annoyed with bookmarking and highlighting services getting it so frustratingly wrong[2] that I wrote my own solution from the ground up in 2020[3], and I have never looked back to Pinboard, Instapaper or Readwise.

It's honestly not that hard once you get the mental model and if you aren't interested in using a service you can easily build something that suits your own needs over a few weekends.

[1]: Links are definitely important metadata though!

[2]: https://lgug2z.com/articles/the-bookmarking-data-model-is-wr...

[3]: https://notado.app

Re: Betula – federated bookmarking software for the independent web

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Post by sodimel »

ww520 wrote: post #29
haunter wrote: post #24

My main problem with bookmarks that I forget about them. I don't need a bookmark keeping service, I need one which would bring them forward when I look for something, based on context too. Something like which also makes a plain text searchable snapshot of the page? Maybe LLMs can solve that.

Same problem here. I have thousands of bookmarks and have no quick way to find out what I have. The bookmarks just get lost in the nested folders. I built a browser extension for myself to show all the bookmarks on one page, making it easy to access them and to search them. I called it One Page Favorites. Basically all my bookmarks/favorites on one page. Edit: Also it’s the first time for me to try to do an extension…

I had the same problem for my bookmarks, but I (kinda) answered it using 2 ways: Random link (when you don't know what to search but want to visit a (curated) cool link), and search (search in title, link, tags, description).

On the paper it works great, if only you can tags those links and write a comprehensive description using keywords you'll remember. But in real life, it's something like this: https://links.l3m.in/en/ and the search barely work (because no tags nor description is not helping).

The project seems cool btw!

Re: Betula – federated bookmarking software for the independent web

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Post by Groxx »

haunter wrote: post #24

My main problem with bookmarks that I forget about them. I don't need a bookmark keeping service, I need one which would bring them forward when I look for something, based on context too. Something like which also makes a plain text searchable snapshot of the page? Maybe LLMs can solve that.

Yeah, I feel like what I really want is something like this, but also it saves the whole page and indexes it and that's the first set of results when I type into my address bar. Ideally self-host-able. I kinda enjoy organizing my bookmarks at times, but I mostly do that so I can find things... which I remember from content, not my organization, so I know it's mostly pointless to organize (for me).

You can get some of that in various combinations, but I haven't seen all of it.

Re: Betula – federated bookmarking software for the independent web

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Post by joshu »

ww520 wrote: post #29
haunter wrote: post #24

My main problem with bookmarks that I forget about them. I don't need a bookmark keeping service, I need one which would bring them forward when I look for something, based on context too. Something like which also makes a plain text searchable snapshot of the page? Maybe LLMs can solve that.

Same problem here. I have thousands of bookmarks and have no quick way to find out what I have. The bookmarks just get lost in the nested folders. I built a browser extension for myself to show all the bookmarks on one page, making it easy to access them and to search them. I called it One Page Favorites. Basically all my bookmarks/favorites on one page. Edit: Also it’s the first time for me to try to do an extension…

this is literally why i invented tagging

Re: Betula – federated bookmarking software for the independent web

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Post by jweatherby »

haunter wrote: post #24

My main problem with bookmarks that I forget about them. I don't need a bookmark keeping service, I need one which would bring them forward when I look for something, based on context too. Something like which also makes a plain text searchable snapshot of the page? Maybe LLMs can solve that.

I built a tool, https://showboard.ca, that does most of what you're looking for.

It helps visualize and organize bookmarks into boards, which you can then share with others. It also scrapes the contents of the links, which is then searchable.

You can see an example of it in action here:

- https://showboard.ca/boards/67-engineering-leadership

- https://showboard.ca/boards/15-recipes

Maybe this can help?

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