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Re: Adobe users are outraged over vague new policy's AI implications

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Post by rpastuszak »

djhn wrote: post #30
rpastuszak wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

FWIW I switched to Affinity from PS after having used PS for 20+ years (since 5.5 I think?). Honestly, it was super easy. Most of the use I had for PS is now split between: Procreate (drawing, illustration, game assets), Figma/Penpot (wireframes, quick mockups, UI sketches etc...), Affinity (image processing, quick photo edits, batch processing, anything that doesn't fall into the categories mentioned earlier).

I used Sketch (and now increasingly Figma) for drawing rectangularish shapes and mockups, but for creating anything artistic Illustrator’s appeal is in the hundreds of effects you can create in seconds with combinations of advanced rotation/duplication/path-following/distortion/blur.

Have you tried Affinity Designer? I've used Illustrator for 10 (or maybe even 15?) years, for anything from illustration to UX design (before Figma, after Fireworks was sunsetted).

Re: Adobe users are outraged over vague new policy's AI implications

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Post by djhn »

rpastuszak wrote: post #31
djhn wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I used Sketch (and now increasingly Figma) for drawing rectangularish shapes and mockups, but for creating anything artistic Illustrator’s appeal is in the hundreds of effects you can create in seconds with combinations of advanced rotation/duplication/path-following/distortion/blur.

Have you tried Affinity Designer? I've used Illustrator for 10 (or maybe even 15?) years, for anything from illustration to UX design (before Figma, after Fireworks was sunsetted).

I haven’t, but all of your advocacy might make me try it now. If you happen to have some YouTube videos, playlists or tutorials you would recommend to get going feel free to share :)

Re: Adobe users are outraged over vague new policy's AI implications

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Post by Hugsun »

throwitaway1123 wrote: post #18
chimen wrote: post #9

Adobe is a virus. You cannot get rid of it. I have an old payment subscription at them that I cannot cancel even after calling the bank. You can't veen close it from the process list without sacrificing 2 hours.

> Adobe is a virus. You cannot get rid of it [...] You can't veen close it from the process list without sacrificing 2 hours. Yup. Last time I installed an Adobe app on a Mac it refused to install unless I entered an administrator password (and didn't describe why that was necessary), and then made itself persistent so that the Creative Cloud background process restarted whenever I rebooted the computer. Ended up dow…

I'm not in any disagreement with your overall sentiment, but don't all installations on macos require and admin password?

It's been a while since I used it.

Re: Adobe users are outraged over vague new policy's AI implications

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Post by wyager »

Hugsun wrote: post #33
throwitaway1123 wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Adobe is a virus. You cannot get rid of it [...] You can't veen close it from the process list without sacrificing 2 hours. Yup. Last time I installed an Adobe app on a Mac it refused to install unless I entered an administrator password (and didn't describe why that was necessary), and then made itself persistent so that the Creative Cloud background process restarted whenever I rebooted the computer. Ended up dow…

I'm not in any disagreement with your overall sentiment, but don't all installations on macos require and admin password? It's been a while since I used it.

Nope, competently-written apps can do everything with only user permissions 99% of the time.

Most of the time when mac installers require an admin password, it's due to a combination of incompetence and malice.

Very frequently I will just unpack installer bundles by hand and drag things where they need to go. No admin password required, and when it is actually required for some functionality, it's usually something really stupid that could have been done differently. E.g. a common one is to install a startup item that boots a background task when you start your computer, but they could just as easily have booted the background task when you launched the app.

Re: Adobe users are outraged over vague new policy's AI implications

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Post by throwitaway1123 »

Hugsun wrote: post #33
throwitaway1123 wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Adobe is a virus. You cannot get rid of it [...] You can't veen close it from the process list without sacrificing 2 hours. Yup. Last time I installed an Adobe app on a Mac it refused to install unless I entered an administrator password (and didn't describe why that was necessary), and then made itself persistent so that the Creative Cloud background process restarted whenever I rebooted the computer. Ended up dow…

I'm not in any disagreement with your overall sentiment, but don't all installations on macos require and admin password? It's been a while since I used it.

As another commenter pointed out, administrator privileges are not required to install the overwhelming majority of apps. The idea that you have to blindly enter your admin password to edit an SVG file or tweak an image is patently absurd to me (my ire is directed at Adobe, not you). Comparable apps like Affinity Designer and Davinci Resolve don't require elevated privileges.

Re: Adobe users are outraged over vague new policy's AI implications

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Post by birdman3131 »

throwitaway1123 wrote: post #35
Hugsun wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not in any disagreement with your overall sentiment, but don't all installations on macos require and admin password? It's been a while since I used it.

As another commenter pointed out, administrator privileges are not required to install the overwhelming majority of apps. The idea that you have to blindly enter your admin password to edit an SVG file or tweak an image is patently absurd to me (my ire is directed at Adobe, not you). Comparable apps like Affinity Designer and Davinci Resolve don't require elevated privileges.

I was required to enter my password the last time I install black magic software on mac.

Re: Adobe users are outraged over vague new policy's AI implications

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Post by throwitaway1123 »

birdman3131 wrote: post #36
throwitaway1123 wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As another commenter pointed out, administrator privileges are not required to install the overwhelming majority of apps. The idea that you have to blindly enter your admin password to edit an SVG file or tweak an image is patently absurd to me (my ire is directed at Adobe, not you). Comparable apps like Affinity Designer and Davinci Resolve don't require elevated privileges.

I was required to enter my password the last time I install black magic software on mac.

Every Black Magic app I've downloaded was through the Mac App Store, and I was never prompted to enter my password during installation. You do have to authenticate with the App Store itself to approve installation of any app, but that doesn't grant the app any special privileges — that's required for every App Store installation (even on the iPhone). If a company doesn't distribute their software through the Mac App Store, then they should just give me a DMG or a zip file with a .app bundle in it that I can drag into my applications folder. Many apps are distributed this way (VSCode for example).
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