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Seeing Like a Data Structure

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Re: Seeing Like a Data Structure

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This is one of my favourite books. Covid response is a perfect modern day example. This book also convinced me that all that net zero interventions and other related exercises will end in a disaster.

early stringent covid responses(such as in China) probably saved millions of lives in the responsive countries, but i guess post-covid will be litigated with vibes not numbers

We have enough cross-sectional variation in response and results that disprove your claim. So, no!

Re: Seeing Like a Data Structure

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early stringent covid responses(such as in China) probably saved millions of lives in the responsive countries, but i guess post-covid will be litigated with vibes not numbers

We have enough cross-sectional variation in response and results that disprove your claim. So, no!

> cross-sectional variation in response and results that disprove your claim

What do you mean? The spread was low enough during the period where it was high mortality that in China, we can lower bound at 1 million even with best case assumptions about mortality compared to the US that likely wouldn't have been true in a still developing country.

Re: Seeing Like a Data Structure

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Feels that if anything, the author is describing computational abstractions, not data structures per se. They mention the term in the text, but then continue to say "data structure" while talking about everything except data structures. For example: "a local cafe is no longer a community hangout but a data structure containing a menu, a list of reservation options, and a hundred 5-star ratings" This description is fo…

It's a general-audience essay, not one targeted towards the HN community. So unfortunately there's little opportunity to delve any deeper into what specific data structures are involved in holding the data and the difference that might make. There are data structures underneath in the excerpt you pulled out and they're so common in code that we don't even notice it. (Even something as simple as this: certain data str…

Sorry, my comment was harsher than it needed to be. I've struggled with belonging where most people seem to fit in, but on the other hand I've benefited greatly, I think, from the processes that make me a taxable citizen rather than a member of a community.

Re: Seeing Like a Data Structure

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It's a general-audience essay, not one targeted towards the HN community. So unfortunately there's little opportunity to delve any deeper into what specific data structures are involved in holding the data and the difference that might make. There are data structures underneath in the excerpt you pulled out and they're so common in code that we don't even notice it. (Even something as simple as this: certain data str…

Sorry, my comment was harsher than it needed to be. I've struggled with belonging where most people seem to fit in, but on the other hand I've benefited greatly, I think, from the processes that make me a taxable citizen rather than a member of a community.

What we're hoping for (and is the theme of the piece) is that we are and can and should be both and more -- taxable citizens, members of illegible communities, and many more things. It's a both-and perspective -- life is and should be composed of many overlapping systems.
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