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Brave launches Search Ads in key markets after successful test phase

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Re: Brave launches Search Ads in key markets after successful test phase

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Why would you even use brave? You want to view advertisements just use Chrome. If you don't there's Firefox and ublock origin.

This post is about the search engine, not the web browser. I use Brave instead of Google search because Google presents me with captchas every time I use it, and Brave's search engine is good enough. I already use Firefox and ublock origin.

Re: Brave launches Search Ads in key markets after successful test phase

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Advertising is potentially useful, it's the scale that's a problem. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPGgTy5YJ-g Like, "Every inch of the new park is covered in sponsor branding" is a problem, but "I had no idea that a store selling towels opened in our town" is also a problem. These are both advertising, at some point you cross from "I didn't know about that, thanks" to "Just fuck off already" and that's too much adv…

The other purpose of the ad is to keep the product top of mind. Those bubbles-and-ice ads aren't to introduce you to the concept but to remind you that you want one - now.

That is completely true and quite effective. Not sure why you're getting down voted. It's time to do away with the down votes

Re: Brave launches Search Ads in key markets after successful test phase

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Why would you even use brave? You want to view advertisements just use Chrome. If you don't there's Firefox and ublock origin.

Chrome is heavy spyware that scans your whole PC by default under the guise of "chrome is an antivirus now". Chrome tracking data is used for google's advertising wing and they lied about it extensively, which was obvious to many but now there's proof because of the recent leak.

Brave does not do this. Pretty much without exception, anyone using chrome is better served by using brave. It doesnt mean brave is perfect or the best, but holding up chrome as better is a joke.

Re: Brave launches Search Ads in key markets after successful test phase

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Coincidentally I’ve noticed a significant drop in quality of results, even though I don’t see any ads yet. It is well known that relevance and click through rate (CTR) are inversely correlated. Was the deterioration in relevance “prep work” for ads?

Re: Brave launches Search Ads in key markets after successful test phase

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Point #2 is false. Brave partnered with a few crypto exchanges. The issue (which is on GitHub) was a bug in the URL auto suggestion feature of the chromium browser. Instead of suggesting the links, it was replacing them ONLY ON THOSE 2-3 CRYPTO WEBSITES. The bug was fixed before it became news. It was fixed on day 1 of the report.

Your defense was to mention that they were tied up in crypto? Maybe it's just me, but it really devalues a product when there is a crypto association.

That's a bias, then. If what the person you're responding to says is correct, being associated with crypto would seem to have nothing to do with it. I have no idea if it's correct, but it sounds like it could just as easily have happened with any kind of partnership.

Re: Brave launches Search Ads in key markets after successful test phase

#39

Why would you even use brave? You want to view advertisements just use Chrome. If you don't there's Firefox and ublock origin.

Chrome is heavy spyware that scans your whole PC by default under the guise of "chrome is an antivirus now". Chrome tracking data is used for google's advertising wing and they lied about it extensively, which was obvious to many but now there's proof because of the recent leak. Brave does not do this. Pretty much without exception, anyone using chrome is better served by using brave. It doesnt mean brave is perfect…

Brave also didn't do ads.

But now they do.

The only real constraint on what Brave will and will not do is their VC pressures to make money vs reputational damage. And reputational damage isn't all that expensive.

Re: Brave launches Search Ads in key markets after successful test phase

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> If someone ever succeeds at dragging AdSense into the OSS world The absolute last thing I want is for the OSS world to fall prey to the perverse incentives of the ad industry. Advertising needs to be purged, not embraced.

Advertising is potentially useful, it's the scale that's a problem. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPGgTy5YJ-g Like, "Every inch of the new park is covered in sponsor branding" is a problem, but "I had no idea that a store selling towels opened in our town" is also a problem. These are both advertising, at some point you cross from "I didn't know about that, thanks" to "Just fuck off already" and that's too much adv…

> "I had no idea that a store selling towels opened in our town" is also a problem

Is it a problem? Maybe in 1995 this would be a problem advertising could fix, but today it's either:

a. I don't need towels so I don't care that this opened.

b. I do need towels and I do a web search for stores that sell towels nearby - at which point I become aware.

Advertising is inferior to an honest catalog of businesses and what they sell - i.e. Google Maps or web search. In the context of web search or business directories, advertising is "putting a finger on the scale" of normal discovery. It's fundamentally dishonest in my opinion.

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