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Re: ChatGPT Edu

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Post by dougb5 »

"Professor Nabila El-Bassel at Columbia University is leading an initiative to integrate AI into community-based strategies to reduce overdose fatalities. Her team built a GPT that analyzes and synthesizes large datasets to inform interventions, reducing weeks of research work into seconds."

That sounds impressive but the link they give to this research just describes a (huge) NIH grant, and speculates on all the ways that AI can help allocate opioid treatment. Is there a paper with actual results from using the described GPT?

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Post by [deleted] »

aleph_minus_one wrote: post #25
hubraumhugo wrote: post #8

I remember the fascination of reading through physical encyclopedias when I was a kid. Having the collective knowledge of the world in my pocket and a personal tutor for any topic still sounds surreal.

> Having the collective knowledge of the world in my pocket and a personal tutor for any topic still sounds surreal. Basically for every topic about which I ask this "personal tutor" (AI models), it hallucinates up stuff. My work colleagues tell me that I should ask it about more "normal" topics, and ask for less paper references. Seriously: for more "normal" topics or for topics where quite some false answers are ac…

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Post by mac-chaffee »

Some of the use-cases mentioned would mean FERPA applies: https://studentprivacy.ed.gov/faq/i-want-use-online-tool-or-...

Surprised FERPA wasn't mentioned explicitly. At least this version doesn't use the data for training, but I shudder to think of all the college administrators dumping student information into their personal ChatGPT accounts right now...

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Post by wcchandler »

Fun. I guess I’ll have this project on my to-do list when I get back from vacation. We already have a managed GPT offering from Azure so it’ll be interesting to see where these intersect.

Re: ChatGPT Edu

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Post by aaplok »

NemoNobody wrote: post #19
i_am_proteus wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In a class of any substantial size, it's very obvious who is using ChatGPT and who is thinking for themselves. A large fraction (often 70%) of responses will be identical in structure and content, if not verbatim copies of each other. These are the people who have used ChatGPT. These are the people who tend to do very poorly on closed-laptop examinations. Students have a choice of how much of their critical thinking…

There will be a few that can write better prompts than others - based on your confidence I'm quite certain professors all across the world have already highly graded AI papers, while worrying about that very problem coming and failing others for it.

My experience has been that performance has gone down significantly since students have access to genAI. I probably get a fifth of the number of high performers that I was getting before. So I'm not worried about the hypothetical tiny minority who can write good prompts. I am worried about the larger group who could have done good work but ended relying on chatGPT too much.

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Post by pvtmert »

elicksaur wrote: post #20

LexisNexis, Westlaw, and Bloomberg all use the same tactic with law schools. (Legal research search engines) Provide free usage to students, so they get used to using it indiscriminately, then they charge on a usage basis for non-students depending on the plan.

microsoft is doing the same for tens of years now

especially in 3rd world countries, they even provide free materials and education... which is high ROI down the line

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Post by spookie »

aleph_minus_one wrote: post #12
micw wrote: post #5

IMO, if universities want to use "AI", they should use their resources to implement their own, open language models rather then implementing a commercial one.

IMO, if universities want to use textbooks, they should use their resources to write their own, open-access ones rather then using commercial ones. SCNR

They often do.

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Post by cowmix »

Arizona State University was an early (first?) adopter in providing broad access to ChatGPT Enterprise, but the implementation has not been as smooth as I hoped. My wife works at ASU, and from our discussions, it’s clear that the rollout has been somewhat disorganized.

The promotional announcements led me to expect "ChatGPT 4 for all!" Yet, the distribution of access has been ambiguous, leaving many staff members, including my wife, in the dark. There has been little to no guidance on how to effectively integrate ChatGTP into their daily tasks, appropriate use cases, or any potential costs involved.

The gap between the initial excitement generated by press releases and the reality of the rollout's execution has been significant. Even now, the specifics remain unclear, despite my efforts to assist my wife in navigating this whole thing.

Re: ChatGPT Edu

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Post by ModernMech »

mac-chaffee wrote: post #33

Some of the use-cases mentioned would mean FERPA applies: https://studentprivacy.ed.gov/faq/i-want-use-online-tool-or-... Surprised FERPA wasn't mentioned explicitly. At least this version doesn't use the data for training, but I shudder to think of all the college administrators dumping student information into their personal ChatGPT accounts right now...

Seemingly, edu solutions from big tech are developed without ever asking input from actual educators. They usually come from a "I went to school, so I know what educators need" perspective, which is often wrong. The offerings are typically half baked, buggy, and deaf to the needs of educators. Github classroom comes to mind. ChatGPT is apparently the next example, where none of the features are educator focused, but instead are focused on bringing their products to students.

Educators have to be especially wary of these efforts, because every tech company comes up with the bright idea of "let's give it to students for free, they'll get hooked, and then when they make money they will buy our product." So we are inundated with spam messages for edutech the way doctors are spammed by big pharma reps. I've got messages in my inbox right now offering me $$$$ to blog about some AI startup. I've got some tech rep hounding me to push some online C++ tool. Now add OpenAI to the list.

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