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25 Years of Krita

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Re: 25 Years of Krita

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Post by shawnz »

resource_waste wrote: post #7
sebstefan wrote: post #4

Wow. I could've sworn Krita was only around 6 years old. I've only very recently started hearing about it.

There seems to be a phenomena I observe in the FOSS community where we reflexively respond to suggestions despite them being far beneath their FOSS alternatives. Only after digging or running into issues, do you find the good stuff. Brand name -> Low quality, highly mentioned -> High quality, rarely mentioned Photoshop-> GIMP -> Krita Windows -> Debian-family/Ubuntu/Mint -> Fedora I almost feel like a religious Zealo…

I lost confidence in Fedora when they made the incredibly weird decision to disable swap by default based on the flawed argument that memory compression could replace it

Re: 25 Years of Krita

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Post by imp0cat »

kirubakaran wrote: post #13
resource_waste wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There seems to be a phenomena I observe in the FOSS community where we reflexively respond to suggestions despite them being far beneath their FOSS alternatives. Only after digging or running into issues, do you find the good stuff. Brand name -> Low quality, highly mentioned -> High quality, rarely mentioned Photoshop-> GIMP -> Krita Windows -> Debian-family/Ubuntu/Mint -> Fedora I almost feel like a religious Zealo…

How is Fedora better than Debian? (genuinely curious)

It's not, it's just different. You mostly get newer stuff and more breakage.

Re: 25 Years of Krita

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Post by binkHN »

I'm impressed by the quality of programs that are coming out of the KDE ecosystem. While KDE is known for its desktop environment, many of the applications that come out of this organization are simply awesome.

Re: 25 Years of Krita

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Post by chongli »

cranberryturkey wrote: post #2

Krita is a great replacement for photoshop.

Maybe if you use Photoshop for painting or art. If you're a photographer who mainly uses Photoshop to do RAW conversion and global adjustments to exposure/colour/saturation/sharpness with a bit of local dodging/burning/healing then Krita doesn't seem to be set up for that sort of workflow.

Re: 25 Years of Krita

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Post by badsectoracula »

tux3 wrote: post #30
influx wrote: post #18

Sounds like developing in QT is awful. They have had to do so much work porting it to new versions of QT.

That's just any big framework. Porting a large codebase between major releases of GTK (or Javascript frameworks) isn't much better.

Depends on the framework.

Qt5 was released in 2012. All of my LCL/Lazarus projects from that time open in modern straight-out-of-git Lazarus just fine. I'm pretty sure 99.9% of my LCL/Lazarus projects from 2005 (when Qt4 was released) also work out of the box, with the exception of those that tried to use strings as byte buffers (fixing this is a quick search and replace) since the datatype changed (this was a compiler/language change though, not a framework one). Retaining backwards compatibility is very important for LCL/Lazarus.

That said Qt has been better than other frameworks when it comes to backwards compatibility, after all you can use the Qt5 docs for Qt6 code and vice versa and things work 95% of the time. Actually i was working on some Krita plugin recently and i only had the Qt6 docs around but i never encountered any issue with what i was using.

AFAICT Krita's issue is mainly on the lower end of things and how they integrate with their custom OpenGL code.

Re: 25 Years of Krita

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Post by jmix »

What a self-indulgent writeup. The article came nowhere near answering the central question: what are the devs doing other than constantly changing the name of the project and how is this thing better than gimp.

Re: 25 Years of Krita

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Post by Vt71fcAqt7 »

resource_waste wrote: post #7
sebstefan wrote: post #4

Wow. I could've sworn Krita was only around 6 years old. I've only very recently started hearing about it.

There seems to be a phenomena I observe in the FOSS community where we reflexively respond to suggestions despite them being far beneath their FOSS alternatives. Only after digging or running into issues, do you find the good stuff. Brand name -> Low quality, highly mentioned -> High quality, rarely mentioned Photoshop-> GIMP -> Krita Windows -> Debian-family/Ubuntu/Mint -> Fedora I almost feel like a religious Zealo…

Why do you think Photoshop is low quality? In my mind Photoshop is very high quality. It just costs money and isn't open source.

Re: 25 Years of Krita

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Post by virtualritz »

cranberryturkey wrote: post #2

Krita is a great replacement for photoshop.

> Krita is a great replacement for photoshop.

No it is not.

Krita was meant to be an OSS alternative to Corel (ex Fractal Design, ex Meta Creations) Painter [1].

And that's what it became, eventually. And quite a bit more.

I've been using Photoshop and Krita since the first version of both of these DCC apps came out (and Painter too, btw). Professionally. I.e. for most of my adult life.

Krita is a great paint app. It's not a Photoshop alternative.

Photoshop is a great image manipulation app. It's not a Krita alternative.

Krita absolutely is a Painter alternative.

Painter is no longer a Krita alternative, if you need certain features (that's a topic for an entire blog post).

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corel_Painter

Re: 25 Years of Krita

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Post by raverbashing »

tux3 wrote: post #30
influx wrote: post #18

Sounds like developing in QT is awful. They have had to do so much work porting it to new versions of QT.

That's just any big framework. Porting a large codebase between major releases of GTK (or Javascript frameworks) isn't much better.

Honestly the major open source native Widgets frameworks suck (for C/C++)

MFC is slightly better, and MFC sucks (at least on MSVC 6.0 era)

WxWidgets was one of the best/easiest OSS ones.

The best library hands down was the one used by Borland C++ Builder (Windows only), VCL.

QT felt like going around in circles and a bit like those "useless superpower" charts, GTK like nobody had invented C++ yet.

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