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Anonymous Source Shared Leaked Google Search API Documents

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> My anonymous source claimed that way back in 2005, Google wanted the full clickstream of billions of Internet users, and with Chrome, they’ve now got it. The API documents suggest Google calculates several types of metrics that can be called using Chrome views related to both individual pages and entire domains. What answer do the engineers at google working on this have for this violation of privacy?

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Re: Anonymous Source Shared Leaked Google Search API Documents

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Any user, not just developers

Developers just replaced IE as the only thing they develop for with chrome, users then _have_ to use chrome because of web developers who only develop for chrome and consider any behaviour other than "it works in chrome" as a bug in other browsers, just as they did with IE. Then there's the relentless parade of "alternative browsers" that are just chrome skins - a period IE also went through - that intentionally try…

You’re conflating lots of unrelated things. IE was a horrible browser to support because Microsoft deliberately implemented their own incompatible version of web standards, or refused to implement modern standards. The push to deprecate IE was because it was creating a massive burden, I personally dealt with IE6 support in corporate world and can attest it’s depreciation was necessary.

What you call chrome skins isn’t a thing, people are building softwares on top of Blink, the rendering engine used by Chrome. The issue here is the risk of ending with a single rendering engine for the majority of the browser market, a diversity of engine ensure a good respect of web standards, that has nothing to do with privacy or security.

When you say “they just replaced IE”, that was >10 years ago…

Re: Anonymous Source Shared Leaked Google Search API Documents

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I work in search and didn't find anything surprising in here. But that's mostly because I've just assumed Google has been lying for years about many things, such as not using click data or Chrome data.

I've directly seen people who have successfully manipulated search rankings by having logged-in chrome users search for a term, and then click on a given page. Works like a charm (though may not stick once the manipulation is done, unless organic users also prefer it).

Re: Anonymous Source Shared Leaked Google Search API Documents

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Personal (not work related opinion): This basically can’t happen with things like DMA and GDPR. DMA in particular means you can’t share data across “products” without explicit consent. So you could for example collect websites that don’t work for the purposes of improving Chrome, but not then share that with the Ads/Search orgs for personalisation or targeting, as far as I understand the legislation. Personal opinion…

The thing is that preventing "sharing" isn't sufficient. People who are concerned about privacy don't want any such data collected or stored in the first place, ever. The implicit "sharing" of my data with Google (or whatever company) is a problem in itself. Regardless of how "seriously" Google (or whatever company) takes it, for a lot of the data I don't want them to ever have it in the first place.

This is a fair position to take, but assuming good faith all round, one that I think will typically be a minority. If you ask a user if they're willing to share crash reports only to improve the reliability of the software, I'd bet most people would be ok with this. In fact it's sufficiently reasonable that I believe GDPR allows this to be opt-out, something I broadly agree with. I do think opt-outs should be available, I do think there should be configuration available for those who do not wish to share anything, but if the laws are being met, in the right spirit, then I would hope it would provide little actual benefit.

Re: Anonymous Source Shared Leaked Google Search API Documents

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Seriously considering switching back to Firefox after all these years.

What's stopping you? I use both browsers and I see no reason why someone would pick Chrome over Firefox at this point in time.

(Some) sites don't work on Firefox.

Sure it isn't frequent, but it is frequent enough that once a day or so I have to open chrome to do something.

Re: Anonymous Source Shared Leaked Google Search API Documents

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If anyone is surprised about chrome sending urls to Google, you can turn the “feature” off by unchecking “Make searches and browsing better” in the sync section of Google chrome settings. Creepy.

Imagine thinking you can escape your abuser by living in their house and asking them politely to stop.
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