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Re: Run VSCode and terminal on any iOS device

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Post by franga2000 »

steve1977 wrote: post #30
theshrike79 wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree, but we should also make restrictions on smart TVs and gaming consoles illegal too. Both the Xbox and PS5 are 100% commodity hardware, not being able to run our own software on it is a really weird limitation. One that people even on HN have accepted while simultaneously ragging on Apple's "walled garden".

But you know these restrictions when you buy the device. Same with the Apple ecosystem. So why make it illegal?

Because it's an artificial limitation to make the company more money, at the expense of customer experience and the environment (yes, locked-down hardware is also a sustainability issue!).

Ideally, companies would exist to serve the public and so such selfish anti-consumer behaviour would be illegal. Unfortunately, they don't and current law seems to affirm that.

Re: Run VSCode and terminal on any iOS device

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Post by madeofpalk »

watermelon0 wrote: post #6

Every time I see something like this, I'm a bit sad, that we live in a world where tablets (especially iPad M4) have comparable performance to most laptops, but we still cannot run a general purpose OS (macOS/Linux/Windows) on them. Tablets are surely capable of running VSCode, Docker, VMs, etc. locally, and from UX standpoint, VSCode is basically Chromium, so experience would be the same if these tools ran directly…

The M4 iPad Pro is the fastest computer Apple sells right now.

Re: Run VSCode and terminal on any iOS device

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Post by arijun »

infotainment wrote: post #12
watermelon0 wrote: post #6

Every time I see something like this, I'm a bit sad, that we live in a world where tablets (especially iPad M4) have comparable performance to most laptops, but we still cannot run a general purpose OS (macOS/Linux/Windows) on them. Tablets are surely capable of running VSCode, Docker, VMs, etc. locally, and from UX standpoint, VSCode is basically Chromium, so experience would be the same if these tools ran directly…

Agreed; Apple’s restrictions on the iPad should be illegal, IMO. It’s ridiculous how crippled they are, and all in the name of making sure people feel compelled to also buy a laptop.

My fear is that such a regulation would end up being a net negative for the consumer. Apple would protect MacBook sales in other ways, e.g. crippling iPad hardware. Genuine question: if it was a net negative, would that still be worth it in your eyes?

Re: Run VSCode and terminal on any iOS device

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Post by unsupp0rted »

infotainment wrote: post #12
watermelon0 wrote: post #6

Every time I see something like this, I'm a bit sad, that we live in a world where tablets (especially iPad M4) have comparable performance to most laptops, but we still cannot run a general purpose OS (macOS/Linux/Windows) on them. Tablets are surely capable of running VSCode, Docker, VMs, etc. locally, and from UX standpoint, VSCode is basically Chromium, so experience would be the same if these tools ran directly…

Agreed; Apple’s restrictions on the iPad should be illegal, IMO. It’s ridiculous how crippled they are, and all in the name of making sure people feel compelled to also buy a laptop.

Companies should be able to make whatever device they want. I use iPhone/iPad when I want to be fairly confident that nobody's actively screenshotting my every move.

Re: Run VSCode and terminal on any iOS device

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Post by More-nitors »

watermelon0 wrote: post #6

Every time I see something like this, I'm a bit sad, that we live in a world where tablets (especially iPad M4) have comparable performance to most laptops, but we still cannot run a general purpose OS (macOS/Linux/Windows) on them. Tablets are surely capable of running VSCode, Docker, VMs, etc. locally, and from UX standpoint, VSCode is basically Chromium, so experience would be the same if these tools ran directly…

this

people will definitely pay a big premium to get:

a surfacebook with M4 chip with macOS

Re: Run VSCode and terminal on any iOS device

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Post by EtienneK »

Ah, the iPad Pro: One of the most compact and powerful computing devices of all time. But trying to use even a small fraction of that power requires workarounds like this.

I bought into the idea of the iPad Pro as a coding device 4 years ago; only to have been left very disappointed. And it seems nothing has really changed (although the M series iPads do at least support full screen external monitors now - mine still has black bars).

I won't consider an iPad Pro until I can actually use it as a development laptop replacement. I still see use for the non-pro iPads in my life; but not the Pro.

Re: Run VSCode and terminal on any iOS device

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Post by alexpc201 »

watermelon0 wrote: post #6

Every time I see something like this, I'm a bit sad, that we live in a world where tablets (especially iPad M4) have comparable performance to most laptops, but we still cannot run a general purpose OS (macOS/Linux/Windows) on them. Tablets are surely capable of running VSCode, Docker, VMs, etc. locally, and from UX standpoint, VSCode is basically Chromium, so experience would be the same if these tools ran directly…

Apple sees the iPads as art creation devices. You may well argue coding is an art, but not for Apple.

Re: Run VSCode and terminal on any iOS device

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Post by kkapelon »

watermelon0 wrote: post #6

Every time I see something like this, I'm a bit sad, that we live in a world where tablets (especially iPad M4) have comparable performance to most laptops, but we still cannot run a general purpose OS (macOS/Linux/Windows) on them. Tablets are surely capable of running VSCode, Docker, VMs, etc. locally, and from UX standpoint, VSCode is basically Chromium, so experience would be the same if these tools ran directly…

I use a Surface Pro with VScode and it works the same as a desktop.

Since it is so light, I now take it with me at conferences/vacation instead of a full laptop.

I have given full presentations on stage that include a live demo with VScode and a local K8s cluster.

It just works.

Re: Run VSCode and terminal on any iOS device

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Post by codetrotter »

pjmlp wrote: post #18
theshrike79 wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree, but we should also make restrictions on smart TVs and gaming consoles illegal too. Both the Xbox and PS5 are 100% commodity hardware, not being able to run our own software on it is a really weird limitation. One that people even on HN have accepted while simultaneously ragging on Apple's "walled garden".

Actually that is not the case with XBox, you can have your own applications there without rooting it. https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/uwp/xbox-apps/devk...

But can you use the Xbox itself to locally develop and run your own software? Or do you still need to use another computer or an online service via web browser?
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