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Suno has raised $125M to build a future where anyone can make music

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Re: Suno has raised $125M to build a future where anyone can make music

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I'm really intrigued with both Suno and Udio as to how the music is represented internally.

Does the model build up track by track vertically, which would then lend itself to a more capable product for professionals, an AI powered DAW if you will. Or is it building a linear stream of all the sounds beat by beat e.g. horizontally?

FWIW I got consistently more musically pleasing results from Udio than Suno. Although occasionally Udio would sing AI gibberish.

Re: Suno has raised $125M to build a future where anyone can make music

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Yeah I've heard this story before. What's actually going to happen is that Spotify and every other music streaming service will be filled with 50 million functionally identical AI generated songs made by people looking to scrape off a few cents when people listen to them by accident.

Spotify is already filled with “10 million of functionally identical songs” made by people “looking to scrape off a few cents”. The state of the art, such as it is, could hardly be any worse.

> The state of the art, such as it is, could hardly be any worse.

That seems highly unlikely to be true.

Re: Suno has raised $125M to build a future where anyone can make music

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Yeah I've heard this story before. What's actually going to happen is that Spotify and every other music streaming service will be filled with 50 million functionally identical AI generated songs made by people looking to scrape off a few cents when people listen to them by accident.

We were already there a few years ago before the generative AI boom.

I'm starting to wonder if this stuff is actually going to make real art "hand made" by real people more valuable in some ways because it'll stand out from the mountains of auto-generated trash. Problem will be finding it.

Re: Suno has raised $125M to build a future where anyone can make music

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Random anecdote: I've created a Suno song as an anniversary gift for my girlfriend. She was absolutely mindblown by it as it's an earworm song with many of our memories.

Always good to be aware of our small tech bubble here and that things we take for granted already, might not even be close to adoption :)

Re: Suno has raised $125M to build a future where anyone can make music

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Not make but generate. The time comes when music played by real people, even with mistakes, will be valued more than electronically generated performance. Thus spoke me

> The time comes when music played by real people, even with mistakes, will be valued more than electronically generated performance.

Robin Hanson recently said something to the effect that this might be the last era of human-dominated artistic production. As such, that works produced in these days -- these final days of the human arts -- might be especially prestigious and valuable in times to come.

I believe it. Suno is shockingly good already, and it's only going to get better. The curtain on human composers is probably going to drop faster than we think.

Re: Suno has raised $125M to build a future where anyone can make music

#37
Suno has some advantages and cons, it can make any music style and can render 2 minute songs in seconds. Its lyric generator is also a tad nicer than others right now. Vocals are horrible, I think about 25% of the vocals sound nice.

Its training on musical styles gives it a lead, its vocals needs much improvement.

Its a great tool for creativity, but its a tad far from music ending up in my playlist due to vocals. For now. Instrumentals, i can totally see using it for background music in videos, themes, trailers, etc.

Re: Suno has raised $125M to build a future where anyone can make music

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Uber fought transportation in huge cities. Very mafia/gang/backdoor dealy right? They ultimately won or bribed the right people. Isn't the music industry like 10x more gangster? Will guys with bats go into the Suno CEO's office and hang him by his heels over the balcony? I wonder how it plays out.

They're gangster but with lawyers. They'll get the algorithm to generate a bunch of stuff that's dubiously similar to stuff they own, then sue Suno for $200M.

Re: Suno has raised $125M to build a future where anyone can make music

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Uber fought transportation in huge cities. Very mafia/gang/backdoor dealy right? They ultimately won or bribed the right people. Isn't the music industry like 10x more gangster? Will guys with bats go into the Suno CEO's office and hang him by his heels over the balcony? I wonder how it plays out.

Pop musicians that make a lot of money are 80% the result of marketing/branding/image and 20% music.

Major acts like Taylor Swift are a lot more threatened by AI being used to generate pictures of her having sex at a Chiefs game than they are by AI creating Swift-sounding music.

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