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Germany uses DD.MM.YY(YY). Dashes are for weirdos like me, and only for ISO dates, never DD-MM-YYYY.
It's more about the order DD MM YYYY than the separators.
Firefox bug gets fixed after 25 years
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Re: Firefox bug gets fixed after 25 years
#32Firefox's Bugzilla is certainly one of the oldest running bug trackers. I'm impressed at how much of the original feel of the bug tracker is still around after all these revisions. It was a pretty hairy, monstrous codebase back in the day. At one point in 2000 (?) I stood up an instance in our Windows dev shop to replace a home-grown bugtracker built on Microsoft Access/Outlook. It was complex but pretty much one of…
Even today it is hard to beat Bugzilla. In fact, some of the choices available today are so much worse than Bugzilla that I cannot even fathom how they exist. As an example, Dwarf Fortress uses Mantis BT, which is just awful. On the other hand, FogBugz is one that I have always wanted to try if I ever got the chance.
Re: Firefox bug gets fixed after 25 years
#33It warms the cockles of my heart to see this kind of thing. Happened to me recently with a 24 year old firefox bug: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62151
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Oh my, you needed chatgpt to check that? ;) Btw, it is a kind of useful to have the date ordered in the obvious minor to major way...
DD-MM-YYYY isn’t as logical as you think. If it was actually consistent then it would be 82-20-0002. Only ISO 8601 and friends are consistently arranged. Anything else is simply a convention that makes sense to those accustomed to it.
Re: Firefox bug gets fixed after 25 years
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#36Ha! I was subscribed to this bug for most of those 25 years. Note that Firefox didn't exist at the time, this was filed against Netscape Navigator. Don't remember why I was subscribed to the bug, must have commented on it or something. Got the occasional email notification about it over the years, always got a chuckle out of it. Then a couple of days ago, lo and behold, it was fixed!
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#38Hoping they do XDG next. Also been waiting for 20 years [1] [1] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=259356
I, however, don't like the loosy goosy config/data/cache split like they have it and the implied intent because not everything falls into those buckets and then you don't know the behavior of some system thing (is Dameon going to wipe my cache? are users going to copy the config folder around? what gets backed up exactly?) There is no standard for how the folders are really treated in the spec. Intentionally vague but possibly vague in ways that will break things if people make assumptions.
It's like the /usr split from the root. or /usr/local from the root. Or /opt. Left overs from a bygone era that seem to stick around. Trying to create yet another.
I reluctantly support it in our product, but only when those ENVs are explicitly set, and I 100% ignore XDG's behavior and what it says should be the default on every linux system when it's not set because it's not what other UNIX variants like MacOS expect. Just enough to keep the Arch Linux zealots from flooding our bug tracker each week, literally demanding we adopt it when they account for less than 1% of users. It's hard enough with docs to let users know where to find their files from our product on their system because users don't know what XDG is all the time and XDG for most is not the established convention they expect already. Frankly, there is too much legacy with trying to move everyone over to this spec, especially when it isn't driving some real compelling value for anyone except for folks who want a pristine user directory.
Honestly, we should rethink it entirely and move to a container-based solution where our desktop apps can't escape their little jails (almost like snap apps). Maybe learn from NIX a bit. Admit defeat that will ever get every linux user app in the world to care and adopt XDG base dir (or even user dir). It's hard enough we are supporting Mac and Windows ports that don't follow this behavior. Get away from the UNIX permission model of running the programs under the user and run each program under it's own uid. It's now android works.
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Oh my, you needed chatgpt to check that? ;) Btw, it is a kind of useful to have the date ordered in the obvious minor to major way...
In the same way I don't need a car if I have a horse :)
I could have spent much more time compiling the same information myself.
You're free to keep using horses though.