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Re: Windows Returns

#31

Post by lostmsu »

brudgers wrote: post #24
integricho wrote: post #12

I wonder what route existing Windows power users should take after Windows 10 support ends next year.. I don't care about these features at all, I just need a Windows OS, bare, where I can install the tools I need, not what Microsoft thinks I need, and so it also serves as a decent, performant gaming PC. I know for the first point Linux is my obvious choice, which is totally fine, but gaming support on Linux never li…

I wonder what route existing Windows power users should take after Windows 10 support ends next year. I no longer think of myself as a power user and that seems to make my life easier and more productive. I think about it like cars on the road. Getting from A to B is the point. Sure sometimes the complexity of an alternate route is more efficient but oftentimes sitting in the slow down is the fastest way. That's diff…

I don't really play any games that would not need mouse. Strategies, MOBAs, and and FPS are shit without one. So a console is useless to me.

Re: Windows Returns

#32

Post by daveoc64 »

integricho wrote: post #12

I wonder what route existing Windows power users should take after Windows 10 support ends next year.. I don't care about these features at all, I just need a Windows OS, bare, where I can install the tools I need, not what Microsoft thinks I need, and so it also serves as a decent, performant gaming PC. I know for the first point Linux is my obvious choice, which is totally fine, but gaming support on Linux never li…

I was really concerned about the direction Windows 11 was going in, but after trying it out, there's really not much I don't like.

I don't even have to use any of the third-party tools that remove OS functionality - just changing easily accessible settings and Group Policy is enough to get it working how I want it.

Windows 10 feels dated in comparison now.

Re: Windows Returns

#33

Post by dayjah »

mg wrote: post #9

developers can add “breadcrumbs” to their apps so that you can not just return to a specific app but also the exact context you wanted to Recall Similar to what the back button does on many web apps? Some people say the web is not made for applications but for pages of content. But I often have the feeling that it is even more suitable for apps than the desktop. You can do so many things with "state in the url" - tra…

I do a lot of 3D modeling. Part of that requires creating views of your object that you can jump back and forth between. I’d never considered the analogy of a bookmark, thanks for that!

When I read about the developer breadcrumbs my eyes lit up; the creation of these views is necessary but also kind of sucks. I would love to be able to say: “show me front elevation of kitchen, looking at rear of building, with fov set to allow me to see the full counter and pantry”.

I’m new at this 3D modeling thing in the grand scheme of things, and self taught, but I spend an inordinate amount of time getting to the state described above.

Re: Windows Returns

#34

Post by glimshe »

integricho wrote: post #12

I wonder what route existing Windows power users should take after Windows 10 support ends next year.. I don't care about these features at all, I just need a Windows OS, bare, where I can install the tools I need, not what Microsoft thinks I need, and so it also serves as a decent, performant gaming PC. I know for the first point Linux is my obvious choice, which is totally fine, but gaming support on Linux never li…

I really don't understand the Windows 11 hysteria. As a long time Windows user, I did wait for Windows 11 to support the old taskbar style before upgrading, but now that it does... It's basically Windows 10 with a few new useful bells and whistles and a bunch of things that I don't care about but are trivially turned off. I'm yet to see the huge problems people talk about after using it daily for months - for me, at least, it's just a faster Windows 10 with a very slightly different look and feel.

Re: Windows Returns

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Post by jareklupinski »

integricho wrote: post #12

I wonder what route existing Windows power users should take after Windows 10 support ends next year.. I don't care about these features at all, I just need a Windows OS, bare, where I can install the tools I need, not what Microsoft thinks I need, and so it also serves as a decent, performant gaming PC. I know for the first point Linux is my obvious choice, which is totally fine, but gaming support on Linux never li…

when LTSC stops being supported, I'm just going to install Debian as my primary OS

it was the News popping up uninvited in the Start Menu that ended Windows for me

i was just about to get into a groove for a project, and a News article popped up with a headline that totally knocked all the wind out of my sails

Re: Windows Returns

#36

Post by anamax »

glimshe wrote: post #34
integricho wrote: post #12

I wonder what route existing Windows power users should take after Windows 10 support ends next year.. I don't care about these features at all, I just need a Windows OS, bare, where I can install the tools I need, not what Microsoft thinks I need, and so it also serves as a decent, performant gaming PC. I know for the first point Linux is my obvious choice, which is totally fine, but gaming support on Linux never li…

I really don't understand the Windows 11 hysteria. As a long time Windows user, I did wait for Windows 11 to support the old taskbar style before upgrading, but now that it does... It's basically Windows 10 with a few new useful bells and whistles and a bunch of things that I don't care about but are trivially turned off. I'm yet to see the huge problems people talk about after using it daily for months - for me, at…

Windows 11 won't run on my current desktop.

Also, Windows 10 is the last Windows OS that supports many "not subscription" services. (Desktop Quicken 2016/2017 does everything I need, so why should I pay for a subscription?)

Re: Windows Returns

#37

Post by justsomehnguy »

flohofwoe wrote: post #30
justsomehnguy wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> those bloody useless Windows and Menu keys between the AltGr and the right Ctrl? If you didn't learn to use them for more than a quarter of century thrn it says more about you than of the usability of those keys. Maybe you are that ... person what shoves PrtScr in the place of ContextMenu on ThinkPads.

Not unusual though? FWIW I use Windows since Win95 and never use the Windows or Menu key (I typically live in the terminal, but can't imagine navigating the start menu or context menues with the keyboard).

I use Windows since 3.1. At the very-very least there is always Win+L.

There is a navigation block (arrows, Home/End, PgUp/PgDown) which is used extensively with Ctrl and Shift when editing text and navigating files and ContextMenu is used when I need a context menu without changing my hand to the mouse to RMB.

Also you can use RWin+ many keys on the right side for your own hotkeys, without clashing with the built-ins.

> but can't imagine navigating the start menu or context menues with the keyboar

My condolences?

There is absolutely nothing wrong doing it with a keyboard. On a notebook it's even more convenient.

Honestly, OP and your comments sounds like you don't use your right hand on the keyboard.

Edit: and to clarify, RWin, arrows, Enter is the fastest way to open an app which is pinned in the Start Menu.

If you don't pin apps there then see my previous comment.

And to both of you: if you never use something it doesn't mean nobody ever in the whole universe does not use it too.

Re: Windows Returns

#38

Post by htk »

flir wrote: post #4

"That latency, frustratingly enough, doesn’t come from the actual rendering, which happens locally on that beefy hardware, but rather the fact that Cocreator validates everything with the cloud for “safety”" oh boy

This, to me, is the worst kind of censorship. You are forbidden of creating something that the toolmaker deems inappropriate.

Re: Windows Returns

#39

Post by flohofwoe »

justsomehnguy wrote: post #37
flohofwoe wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not unusual though? FWIW I use Windows since Win95 and never use the Windows or Menu key (I typically live in the terminal, but can't imagine navigating the start menu or context menues with the keyboard).

I use Windows since 3.1. At the very-very least there is always Win+L. There is a navigation block (arrows, Home/End, PgUp/PgDown) which is used extensively with Ctrl and Shift when editing text and navigating files and ContextMenu is used when I need a context menu without changing my hand to the mouse to RMB. Also you can use RWin+ many keys on the right side for your own hotkeys, without clashing with the built-in…

I'm actually a heavy keyboard user, but in my case that just means terminal stuff and using the vi/vim input model in text editors, and that's mostly limited to Ctrl, Shift and Alt for Alt-tabbing and Alt-F4, but that's about it.

But that also means that I pretty much use only 3 or 4 applications: a terminal window, VSCode, a browser, and Steam, so all the fancy start menu and Explorer features are also wasted on me.

Now that you mention it I actually remember Win+L to lock the desktop back when we still worked in an office, but when working from home that's hardly relevant.

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