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The ironical thing about the "Follow what creates value for other people" advice - for math graduates in particular - is that most of modern math doesn't seem to be motivated this. I'd probably agree that research math also doesn't come from a goal of "self growth", but maybe it should be something like "follow your curiosity".

As others stated, who the 'people' are varies. I used to sell cars and was top 0.1% in the country at it. Yet others would say I was a parasite costing them money for nothing. But they were ignoring I was providing value for the dealership and its collection of employees even beyond the owners. I worked for a public corporation. Tons of stake holders profited via stock value while I was there. On a tangent, people al…

> On a tangent, people always say they'd rather just buy cars online. ... within a month you'd have salespeople interacting with customers again.

If that were true, it wouldn't be necessary to outlaw direct-to-consumer sales.

https://www.justice.gov/atr/economic-effects-state-bans-dire...

Re: What "Follow Your Dreams" Misses [video]

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You're suspicious my comment is an ad, or the original post? I have zero affiliation with the channel, have never emailed with the creator or anyone on their team, and am not even subscribed to the youtube channel. I just saw a guy wearing one of the shirts at the Palo Alto farmer's market and was intrigued. My first reaction was "is that the guy who runs the channel?" and then I realized he probably had a shop and p…

Apologies, still finding my footing here at HN. I have a lot "reddit reflexes" for lack of a better word, and this was probably a product of that.

Welcome! Pretty much the only ads here are paywall links. For some reason they’re allowed, but usually somebody posts an archive link

Re: What "Follow Your Dreams" Misses [video]

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As others stated, who the 'people' are varies. I used to sell cars and was top 0.1% in the country at it. Yet others would say I was a parasite costing them money for nothing. But they were ignoring I was providing value for the dealership and its collection of employees even beyond the owners. I worked for a public corporation. Tons of stake holders profited via stock value while I was there. On a tangent, people al…

> On a tangent, people always say they'd rather just buy cars online. ... within a month you'd have salespeople interacting with customers again. If that were true, it wouldn't be necessary to outlaw direct-to-consumer sales. https://www.justice.gov/atr/economic-effects-state-bans-dire...

Well you mean buying direct from manufacturer for their asking price online.

I mean that you can buy from a dealership for asking price online.

I have done countless deals over the Internet and had a driver or a truck deliver the car to a customer. Some for asking price, some discounted.

Re: What "Follow Your Dreams" Misses [video]

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"being a successful entrepreneur means selling something people want to buy" this sounds like a vast oversimplification.

Its the one thing that really needs to be true. I've met many entrepreneurs and although chaos is usually something that impedes a company it's not always true. I know people with decades old multi million dollar profit companies and you see behind the curtain and its literally a mess. I know companies that do zero advertisement and are doing year over year growth. I see companies that are extremely unfriendly to their customers but deliver a product that they cant get somewhere else... The only real thing that connects all these companies is that they are selling something people want.

Re: What "Follow Your Dreams" Misses [video]

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Apologies, still finding my footing here at HN. I have a lot "reddit reflexes" for lack of a better word, and this was probably a product of that.

You might check someone's account age or history first. Typically people won't accumulate many thousands of karma points if they are shilling for brands.

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You might check someone's account age or history first. Typically people won't accumulate many thousands of karma points if they are shilling for brands.

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I've been active here for over a decade. If I did that so I could start shilling for brands in my 40s, that'd be a hell of a long con. Also, I pointed out that it's useful to check users' histories. A few seconds with my comment history would reveal that I'm more of a grump than a shill.

Re: What "Follow Your Dreams" Misses [video]

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"being a successful entrepreneur means selling something people want to buy" this sounds like a vast oversimplification.

I tend to agree - just look at large parts of the Venture Capital / Start-Up scene. Chasing the coveted product/market-fit is a purpose in itself there (at least in the early stages). I guess it depends on what you define as "successful"...

Re: What "Follow Your Dreams" Misses [video]

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The ironical thing about the "Follow what creates value for other people" advice - for math graduates in particular - is that most of modern math doesn't seem to be motivated this. I'd probably agree that research math also doesn't come from a goal of "self growth", but maybe it should be something like "follow your curiosity".

> The ironical thing about the "Follow what creates value for other people" advice - for math graduates in particular - is that most of modern math doesn't seem to be motivated this. I do believe that the results of math research (even the pure one) create an insane value for other people, but that we live in a world full of ignorant people who don't see this insane value (yet). Thus, the modern math research may not…

also, creating value is different from capturing value.

You can create value but not capture it (or don't have the ability to capture it). But somebody tends to capture the value, and if it's not you, it's probably going to be your boss (or their boss, etc).

Re: What "Follow Your Dreams" Misses [video]

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It’s always had the subtext of “follow your (reasonable) dreams.”

Another missed mark is that "dream" needs knowledge. If you don't ever know/experience what's possible, you may not be able to dream about it.

this is an important point. i remember while in school we were sent into a library that had documentation on the various apprentice and training programs that existed, detailing the regulations and requirements for each. but i also remember it being a grey wall of shelves with folders all looking the same, totally uninspiring. i was able to look up the things that i was already interested in but i did not get any inspiration for what else i could be doing.

we did two internships, one in 9th grade and one in 10th. we had to find those internships ourselves, go to the companies, ask and apply. (as a practice how to apply for jobs)

i had no idea what i wanted to do. the first internship i did at a bike shop because i had built my own bike before so i casually asked, and then they accepted me before i was even sure that this is what i wanted to do myself. i was to unsure of myself to tell them that i had not even decided myself. it was a wasted opportunity because i already knew a lot about bikes, so i barely learned anything new. at best i learned about dealing with bosses and managers, but even that hardly registered. the second internship was better, at a company designing ship propulsion systems. i got introduced to CAD on paper and on the computer and to work in a machine shop to create machine parts. not something i wanted to do, but it gave me insights into that industry that i still find valuable today.

long story short, the problem was that i had no idea what i wanted to do. the one dream job (ships captain) was kind of out of reach because the training on the ship would have meant to stop wearing my braces which required monthly dentist visits. or at least so i thought. because the real problem was that there was noone to talk to about these concerns.

so i just stumbled into IT.

i mean, sure, i was the kid who spent their afternoons after class alone in the computerlab in school. (even got locked in once because the cleaners didn't realize i was in there) but then i did an internship at a friends software company and decided that working in an office all day was not for me.

but i went on to study computer science anyways. again, because i lacked inspiration to study anything else. i was always picking stuff i was already familiar with.

i was traveling a lot by myself in the school holidays, but i never even considered what kind of jobs might be available in that space.

so yeah, i was one of those kids without a dream or with a dream that i believed was out of reach. and my career development was a sequence of coincidences. i eventually realized that programming was fun, thanks to roxen and pike, despite that office internship experience. and the relative higher pay afforded me some freedoms and the ability to take risks i would not have been able to otherwise. my affinity for travel opened up jobs all across the world, and so in the end despite struggling to find work now, i am pretty happy with where i ended up.

it is difficult to say what would have helped to develop more ideas for potential work i could be doing. more internships would probably have been good as well as other opportunities to get an insight into various jobs and industries. individual career counseling that really tries to work out potential interests. are there books or movies that could be inspiring?

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