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Re: Tegelwippen

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Post by drivingmenuts »

microtonal wrote: post #26
KaiserPro wrote: post #3

For those who aren't gifted with the dutch language (its easy to learn for enlgish speakers. Its like german but with english syntax. logical spelling and grammar thats really not that hard) Anyway, Tegelwippen is where you "flip tiles" and replace them with plants. The basic play is that it reduces flooding, and regulates temperature. Plus its pretty. https://interlace-hub.com/national-dutch-championship-%E2%80... T…

Its like german but with english syntax I don't want to be too pedantic, but it's not. Dutch syntax is very similar to German, both are typically analyzed as an SOV (subject-object-verb) language with movement of the finite verb to the V2 position in declarative main clauses, unlike English. Word order of Dutch and German clauses (+ some other Germanic languages) are typically described in terms of topological fields…

I only speak English (and a few foreign fightin' words) and yet, I understood (I think) the meaning of "vorfeld, mittelfeld, and nachfeld" way easier than "the V2 and verb cluster positions".

Maybe I should just learn Dutch and dump English?

Re: Tegelwippen

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Post by jillesvangurp »

microtonal wrote: post #26
KaiserPro wrote: post #3

For those who aren't gifted with the dutch language (its easy to learn for enlgish speakers. Its like german but with english syntax. logical spelling and grammar thats really not that hard) Anyway, Tegelwippen is where you "flip tiles" and replace them with plants. The basic play is that it reduces flooding, and regulates temperature. Plus its pretty. https://interlace-hub.com/national-dutch-championship-%E2%80... T…

Its like german but with english syntax I don't want to be too pedantic, but it's not. Dutch syntax is very similar to German, both are typically analyzed as an SOV (subject-object-verb) language with movement of the finite verb to the V2 position in declarative main clauses, unlike English. Word order of Dutch and German clauses (+ some other Germanic languages) are typically described in terms of topological fields…

I'm Dutch, I live in Germany. The language and grammar are different enough that I struggle with German. Dutch dialects in the north of the country are very similar across the border.

There's also the notion that the Dutch grammar has been changed quite a bit over the years and used to resemble German a lot more. Mostly things are a lot simpler these days than they used to be. Older Dutch texts are hard to read even for Dutch people. Even texts from the 19th century look very different from modern Dutch.

Finally, the reason English speakers recognize a lot of Dutch words is because a lot of English words actually have Dutch origins. For example, the word cookie is a bastardized form of the Dutch koekje. Especially a lot of naval jargon comes straight from Dutch. The reason for this is long trade relations, colonizing the same places (e.g. New York used to be New Amsterdam), etc. There even was a Dutch king on the British throne in the seventeenth century.

Re: Tegelwippen

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Post by morkalork »

torginus wrote: post #6
kylebenzle wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In parts of America we're paid to dig up our lawns and replace them with rocks and tile.

Aren't those parts of America the parts which are literally desert, and maintaining a green lawn requires an amount of water that amounts to an ecological catastrophe?

It's almost like you should work with your local environment when making a yard/garden and not against it.

Re: Tegelwippen

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Post by amelius »

KaiserPro wrote: post #3

For those who aren't gifted with the dutch language (its easy to learn for enlgish speakers. Its like german but with english syntax. logical spelling and grammar thats really not that hard) Anyway, Tegelwippen is where you "flip tiles" and replace them with plants. The basic play is that it reduces flooding, and regulates temperature. Plus its pretty. https://interlace-hub.com/national-dutch-championship-%E2%80... T…

What does "NK" mean?

Re: Tegelwippen

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Post by consp »

amelius wrote: post #34
KaiserPro wrote: post #3

For those who aren't gifted with the dutch language (its easy to learn for enlgish speakers. Its like german but with english syntax. logical spelling and grammar thats really not that hard) Anyway, Tegelwippen is where you "flip tiles" and replace them with plants. The basic play is that it reduces flooding, and regulates temperature. Plus its pretty. https://interlace-hub.com/national-dutch-championship-%E2%80... T…

What does "NK" mean?

Nederlands Kampioenschap or Dutch national Championship

Re: Tegelwippen

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Post by bartkappenburg »

amelius wrote: post #34
KaiserPro wrote: post #3

For those who aren't gifted with the dutch language (its easy to learn for enlgish speakers. Its like german but with english syntax. logical spelling and grammar thats really not that hard) Anyway, Tegelwippen is where you "flip tiles" and replace them with plants. The basic play is that it reduces flooding, and regulates temperature. Plus its pretty. https://interlace-hub.com/national-dutch-championship-%E2%80... T…

What does "NK" mean?

Dutch Championship (Nederlands Kampioenschap)

Re: Tegelwippen

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Post by [deleted] »

amelius wrote: post #34
KaiserPro wrote: post #3

For those who aren't gifted with the dutch language (its easy to learn for enlgish speakers. Its like german but with english syntax. logical spelling and grammar thats really not that hard) Anyway, Tegelwippen is where you "flip tiles" and replace them with plants. The basic play is that it reduces flooding, and regulates temperature. Plus its pretty. https://interlace-hub.com/national-dutch-championship-%E2%80... T…

What does "NK" mean?

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Re: Tegelwippen

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Post by snowpid »

drivingmenuts wrote: post #31
microtonal wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its like german but with english syntax I don't want to be too pedantic, but it's not. Dutch syntax is very similar to German, both are typically analyzed as an SOV (subject-object-verb) language with movement of the finite verb to the V2 position in declarative main clauses, unlike English. Word order of Dutch and German clauses (+ some other Germanic languages) are typically described in terms of topological fields…

I only speak English (and a few foreign fightin' words) and yet, I understood (I think) the meaning of "vorfeld, mittelfeld, and nachfeld" way easier than "the V2 and verb cluster positions". Maybe I should just learn Dutch and dump English?

Vorfeld, Mittelfeld and Nachfeld look more like German.

Re: Tegelwippen

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Post by cyberlimerence »

orlp wrote: post #30
cyberlimerence wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Very interesting. If you could elaborate, are there linguistical/historical reasons for that ? Does Dutch use more "fine-grained" concepts on average ?

I suspect compound words are a major component of it. In English "car factory" are two words. In Dutch an "autofabriek" is one word. A dictionary might choose to list the most common compound words which quickly adds up.

In relation to English, sure. But above compares Dutch to German, and they are both Germanic languages, and I think utilize compound words heavily. Looking at sibling comments, maybe those numbers are exaggerated.
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