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Ilya Sutskever to leave OpenAI
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Re: Ilya Sutskever to leave OpenAI
#32Sam "Worldcoin" Altman regrets the loss of a friend that called him out on how OpenAi is becoming closed because the engineers realized they could make a lot of money. Doesn't seem like it is impacting the quality of the models, but it will probably impact openai's impact.
Can you blame the engineers? If you realize LLM tech is neat but ultimately overhyped and probably decades away from truly realizing the promises of general purpose AI, why not just switch goals to making as much money as you can?
Yes you absolutely can blame them for it. This type of shift (and a million other possible permutations) is why we invented the concept of "charters" around the same time we invented writing.
The entire point of the pre-commitment device is because you (or other stakeholders) are anticipating that your thinking will get distorted over time. If you could be trusted to make such a decision in the future then you wouldn't have written a charter to bind yourself.
Re: Ilya Sutskever to leave OpenAI
#33Sam "Worldcoin" Altman regrets the loss of a friend that called him out on how OpenAi is becoming closed because the engineers realized they could make a lot of money. Doesn't seem like it is impacting the quality of the models, but it will probably impact openai's impact.
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Re: Ilya Sutskever to leave OpenAI
#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
Can you blame the engineers? If you realize LLM tech is neat but ultimately overhyped and probably decades away from truly realizing the promises of general purpose AI, why not just switch goals to making as much money as you can?
Yes. They joined OpenAI with the understanding that it was meant to be an non-profit with a mission to benefit humanity.
Did you not read what I said? They joined a non-profit and eventually realized the mission is futile.
Re: Ilya Sutskever to leave OpenAI
#35Why now?
Why not? We don’t know details that could involve financial agreements
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#36Re: Ilya Sutskever to leave OpenAI
#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes. They joined OpenAI with the understanding that it was meant to be an non-profit with a mission to benefit humanity.
Did you not read what I said? They joined a non-profit and eventually realized the mission is futile.
So dissolve it, return the money, go start a commercial enterprise, then raise some money.
Re: Ilya Sutskever to leave OpenAI
#38I'll say it again - the one who was irreplaceable at OpenAI is Ilya, not Sam.
Yeah - he's one of the only people I've seen talk on the topic who really seems to understand where it's going and how to get there. It's possible he's evangelized others at OAI who can carry the torch, but I'm skeptical given the degree of pushback the statements most in need of being represented got from his peers.
Re: Ilya Sutskever to leave OpenAI
#39Altman's tweet ( https://x.com/sama/status/1790518031640347056?s=46 ) makes it seem as if he wanted to stay, and Ilya disagreed and "chose" to depart. Very interesting framing.
While he does say, he is leaving for some personal and meaningful project, let’s see what it ends up being.
That "personal and meaningful" can just mean anything.
Re: Ilya Sutskever to leave OpenAI
#40Sam "Worldcoin" Altman regrets the loss of a friend that called him out on how OpenAi is becoming closed because the engineers realized they could make a lot of money. Doesn't seem like it is impacting the quality of the models, but it will probably impact openai's impact.
Oklo as well