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Re: Veo

#31

Post by ZiiS » Tue, May 14, 2024, 6:20 PM UTC

htrp wrote: post #9

Was anyone else confused by that Donald Glover segment. It felt like we were going to get a short film, and we got 3-5 clips?

Also it is either very good at generating living people or they need to put more though into saying "Note: All videos on this page were generated by Veo and have not been modified"

Re: Veo

#32

Post by mupuff1234 » Tue, May 14, 2024, 6:20 PM UTC

curiousgal wrote: post #16

Oh look another half baked product release that's not available in any country. They're a joke.

Is Sora available in any country?

Re: Veo

#33

Post by [deleted] » Tue, May 14, 2024, 6:20 PM UTC

loudmax wrote: post #21

The videos in this demo are pretty neat. If this had been announced just four months ago we'd all be very impressed by the capabilities. The problem is that these video clips are very unimpressive compared to the Sora demonstration which came out three months ago. If this demo was announced by some scrappy startup it would be worth taking note. Coming from Google, the inventor of the Transformer and owner of the larg…

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Re: Veo

#34

Post by inasio » Tue, May 14, 2024, 6:21 PM UTC

From a 2014 Wired article [0]: "The average shot length of English language films has declined from about 12 seconds in 1930 to about 2.5 seconds today"

I can see more real-world impact from this (and/or Sora) than most other AI tools

[0] https://www.wired.com/2014/09/cinema-is-evolving/

Re: Veo

#35

Post by jsheard » Tue, May 14, 2024, 6:22 PM UTC

ZiiS wrote: post #31

htrp wrote: post #9

Was anyone else confused by that Donald Glover segment. It felt like we were going to get a short film, and we got 3-5 clips?

Also it is either very good at generating living people or they need to put more though into saying "Note: All videos on this page were generated by Veo and have not been modified"

That "footage has not been modified" statement is probably to get ahead of any speculation that it was "cleaned up" in post, after it turned out that the Sora demo of the balloon headed man had fairly extensive manual VFX applied afterwards to fix continuity errors and other artifacts.

Re: Veo

#36

Post by skepticATX » Tue, May 14, 2024, 6:22 PM UTC

xianshou wrote: post #23

To quote Twitter/X, "I wonder what OpenAI will release tomorrow and Google will release a waitlist for." GPT-4o: out Veo: waitlist Admittedly this is impressive and the direct comp would be Sora, which isn't out, but sometimes the caricature is very close to the truth.

OpenAI hardly released gpt-4o. The demo yesterday was clearly a rushed response to I/O. It’s quite possible that Google will ship multi-modality features faster than OpenAI will.

Re: Veo

#37

Post by karmasimida » Tue, May 14, 2024, 6:22 PM UTC

mccraveiro wrote: post #22

They didn't show any human videos, which could indicate that the technology struggles with generating them.

Actually there is one in the last demo, it is not an individual one, but one shot in the demo where a team uses this model to create a scene with human in it, where they created an image of black woman but only up her head in it

I would generally agree though, it is not normal they didn’t show more human

Re: Veo

#38

Post by Keyframe » Tue, May 14, 2024, 6:22 PM UTC

Kind of sucks to be google. Even they're making good progress here, and have laid the foundations of a lot if not most things.. their products are, well there aren't any noteworthy compared to rest. And considering google is sitting on top of one of the largest if not THE largest video database, along with maps, traffic, search, internet.zip, usenet, vast computing resources vertically integrated.. they have the whole advantage in the world. So, the hell are they doing? Why isn't their CEO already out? Expectations from them are higher than from anyone else.

Re: Veo

#39

Post by airstrike » Tue, May 14, 2024, 6:22 PM UTC

> Veo

> Sign up to try VisionFX

Is it Veo or VisionFX? Is it a sign up, a trial, or a waitlist?

How hard can it be to write a clear message? In the words of Don Miller, if you confuse, you lose.

Re: Veo

#40

Post by rvz » Tue, May 14, 2024, 6:24 PM UTC

xianshou wrote: post #23

To quote Twitter/X, "I wonder what OpenAI will release tomorrow and Google will release a waitlist for." GPT-4o: out Veo: waitlist Admittedly this is impressive and the direct comp would be Sora, which isn't out, but sometimes the caricature is very close to the truth.

Sora is the closest comparison to Veo and both aren't out.

It's been there for three months and still isn't even close to being released and available.

Essentially Google has already caught up to OpenAI with their recent responses and it's clear that there are private OpenAI investors pushing such nonsense around Google struggling to compete.