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Re: German public broadcasters open source their streaming platforms

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Post by _tk_ »

throw_pm23 wrote: post #29
aszantu wrote: post #27

ca. 2000s, I'm getting rid of my TV because if you have one in Germany, you have to pay the fee... ca. 2003, I'm getting rid of my tv-card which has been free until now, or else I have to pay a fee... ca. 2010, They've got a website now, if you have a computer or phone, you gotta pay the fee... great... now I have to pay the fee because I have a github... or what

yes, but it continued: ca. 2015, you have to pay it anyway, with no exemptions ca. 2020, they start randomly sending out delay penalties, even if you are late by days, without ever notifying you of the due dates ca. 2022, they sneakily shift the 3-months fee forward, first you can pay it at the end of the period, then in the middle month, then soon at the beginning meanwhile, the programming gets worse and worse ever…

If you vote for fascists - whose lead candidates seem to be spying for Russia and China - because of a 17€ license fee per month, then you should reevaluate your perspective on the public broadcasting system and on money.

Re: German public broadcasters open source their streaming platforms

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Post by 082349872349872 »

Adverblessly wrote: post #25

Here in Israel they just upload most of their TV content to YT, some if it is really good. They used to also stream (and archive) their news stuff, but for some reason I'm getting a 404. (You can look up Kan11 and Kan11news if you are curious, though I don't think they have translations so probably not useful if you don't speak Hebrew). EDIT: Looks like it is only broken for me in FireFox...

If I liked סרוגים, is there any recent series you'd recommend?

Re: German public broadcasters open source their streaming platforms

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Post by ffsm8 »

Adverblessly wrote: post #25

Here in Israel they just upload most of their TV content to YT, some if it is really good. They used to also stream (and archive) their news stuff, but for some reason I'm getting a 404. (You can look up Kan11 and Kan11news if you are curious, though I don't think they have translations so probably not useful if you don't speak Hebrew). EDIT: Looks like it is only broken for me in FireFox...

That was the case in Germany too, at least for a few years.

They've since changed their tune and ceased uploading whole episodes, only excerpts go onto YouTube now with links to their own "Mediathek".

From my understanding they're doing so because the content is paid for by public money, and YouTube is a foreign for-profit company. So they were essentially spending the citizens money to provide content to a private entity that's headquartered abroad

Re: German public broadcasters open source their streaming platforms

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Post by sunaookami »

blueflow wrote: post #17
drewmcarthur wrote: post #3

public means public, if something is paid for by tax money, it should be licensed for public use

I was about to call that the Rundfunkbeitrag is not legally a tax (Steuer), but a tax (Beitrag). For some reason that difference does not seem to exist in English and it translates to the same word??

It doesn't matter if it's masquerading as a license fee, it's by all means a tax - it's required by law and you go to jail if you do not pay it and you have to pay it even if you don't want to consume their content.

Re: German public broadcasters open source their streaming platforms

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Post by odiroot »

ffsm8 wrote: post #33
Adverblessly wrote: post #25

Here in Israel they just upload most of their TV content to YT, some if it is really good. They used to also stream (and archive) their news stuff, but for some reason I'm getting a 404. (You can look up Kan11 and Kan11news if you are curious, though I don't think they have translations so probably not useful if you don't speak Hebrew). EDIT: Looks like it is only broken for me in FireFox...

That was the case in Germany too, at least for a few years. They've since changed their tune and ceased uploading whole episodes, only excerpts go onto YouTube now with links to their own "Mediathek". From my understanding they're doing so because the content is paid for by public money, and YouTube is a foreign for-profit company. So they were essentially spending the citizens money to provide content to a private e…

Fortunately Tagesschau still uploads to YT. Which is great because their website (and the video player) are a bit clunky.

Re: German public broadcasters open source their streaming platforms

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Post by qwertox »

sunaookami wrote: post #34
blueflow wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was about to call that the Rundfunkbeitrag is not legally a tax (Steuer), but a tax (Beitrag). For some reason that difference does not seem to exist in English and it translates to the same word??

It doesn't matter if it's masquerading as a license fee, it's by all means a tax - it's required by law and you go to jail if you do not pay it and you have to pay it even if you don't want to consume their content.

If it were a tax, couldn't the collected money be used for anything the government sees fit, like fixing potholes?

Re: German public broadcasters open source their streaming platforms

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Post by trueismywork »

blueflow wrote: post #17
drewmcarthur wrote: post #3

public means public, if something is paid for by tax money, it should be licensed for public use

I was about to call that the Rundfunkbeitrag is not legally a tax (Steuer), but a tax (Beitrag). For some reason that difference does not seem to exist in English and it translates to the same word??

The difference between Steuer and Beitrag is an artificial distinction that the German government has made in their laws. It has not much to do with the language itself. It's just that because German language is not used much outside Germany, official government terms and language basically get conflated.

Re: German public broadcasters open source their streaming platforms

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Post by trueismywork »

qwertox wrote: post #36
sunaookami wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It doesn't matter if it's masquerading as a license fee, it's by all means a tax - it's required by law and you go to jail if you do not pay it and you have to pay it even if you don't want to consume their content.

If it were a tax, couldn't the collected money be used for anything the government sees fit, like fixing potholes?

Thats a distinction that only exists in German laws. And therefore in German language. That is not a distinction in other languages.

Re: German public broadcasters open source their streaming platforms

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Post by qwertox »

Grimeton wrote: post #19
blueflow wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was about to call that the Rundfunkbeitrag is not legally a tax (Steuer), but a tax (Beitrag). For some reason that difference does not seem to exist in English and it translates to the same word??

broadcast license fee/tv license fee

TV license fee. This is how it's named in the UK.

Broadcast license is what broadcasters pay for in order to be allowed to broadcast the licensed content.

Re: German public broadcasters open source their streaming platforms

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Post by iso8859-1 »

This is great. It fits with how they're adopting Mastodon. Why isn't NPR officially adopting Mastodon? The fact that Truth Social exists should motivate NPR even more, as it could be accused of being pro-Trump while staying on Twitter. In Germany, no platform is run by any particular candidate, and they still went to Mastodon.
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