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Nintendo blitzes GitHub with over 8k emulator-related DMCA takedowns

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#32

Nintendo is in an interesting position whereby they are actually selling emulators as a product to this day. Which gives them more of a leg to stand on in these sorts of efforts, regardless of whether or not I personally agree.

Oracle v Google determined this in my mind, the emulator is implementing an API, the API is not protected by copyright law.

Re: Nintendo blitzes GitHub with over 8k emulator-related DMCA takedowns

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Why are emulators illegal? I understand that they are associated with piracy because people play pirates games on them. But it’s like banning BitTorrent because it allows you to pirate, or Windows because you can play pirates games on it as well. The article mentions that emulators “illegally circumvent Nintendo’s technological protection measures and run illegal copies of Switch games.”. But which law makes it illeg…

> But which law makes it illegal to circumvent such systems?

DMCA section 1201

Re: Nintendo blitzes GitHub with over 8k emulator-related DMCA takedowns

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I wonder if there’s a “git over BitTorrent”. Having a cryptographically signed (by authors, not by GitHub) and fully open source git hosting network would be a boom for FOSS security in general.

As much as it pains me to say this this might be a good use of blockchain

Care to explain? If you just mean verified tree, git already is that.

Re: Nintendo blitzes GitHub with over 8k emulator-related DMCA takedowns

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post #30

Why are emulators illegal? I understand that they are associated with piracy because people play pirates games on them. But it’s like banning BitTorrent because it allows you to pirate, or Windows because you can play pirates games on it as well. The article mentions that emulators “illegally circumvent Nintendo’s technological protection measures and run illegal copies of Switch games.”. But which law makes it illeg…

Emulators per se are not illegal. Most likely.

Re: Nintendo blitzes GitHub with over 8k emulator-related DMCA takedowns

#37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Usually the justification for emulation is "the company doesn't sell this product anymore, it's abandonware"

Emulation’s legal whether or not some of the software on a platform is abandonware (which doesn’t justify anything legally, anyway)

When you make this kind of claim, please make sure to 1) disclose whether you're a lawyer, and 2) your jurisdiction.

Re: Nintendo blitzes GitHub with over 8k emulator-related DMCA takedowns

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I wonder if there’s a “git over BitTorrent”. Having a cryptographically signed (by authors, not by GitHub) and fully open source git hosting network would be a boom for FOSS security in general.

What’s stopping you from making torrents of your repos now? (Not as a rhetorical question; I don’t quite understand your vision, so I’m hoping you’ll clarify the usage.)

They are probably talking about a "serverless" bittorrent. Some kind of Git-over-DHT. It would require this to be accepted: http://bittorrent.org/beps/bep_0050.html (Decentralized Mutable Torrent)

Re: Nintendo blitzes GitHub with over 8k emulator-related DMCA takedowns

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post #30

Why are emulators illegal? I understand that they are associated with piracy because people play pirates games on them. But it’s like banning BitTorrent because it allows you to pirate, or Windows because you can play pirates games on it as well. The article mentions that emulators “illegally circumvent Nintendo’s technological protection measures and run illegal copies of Switch games.”. But which law makes it illeg…

This is a good question. In addition to an answer, if someone could give a high level but technical overview about how the Nintendo Switch encryption works and how the emulators work around it I'd be grateful.

Re: Nintendo blitzes GitHub with over 8k emulator-related DMCA takedowns

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Why are emulators illegal? I understand that they are associated with piracy because people play pirates games on them. But it’s like banning BitTorrent because it allows you to pirate, or Windows because you can play pirates games on it as well. The article mentions that emulators “illegally circumvent Nintendo’s technological protection measures and run illegal copies of Switch games.”. But which law makes it illeg…

> But which law makes it illegal to circumvent such systems? DMCA section 1201

You are right, it says it right there:

No person shall circumvent a technological measure that effectively controls access to a work protected under this title.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/17/1201

Can the emulators remove the circumvention code to avoid the DMCA takedown?

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