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The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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Post by zachthewf »

amanzi wrote: post #22

I actually like the idea of a small, stand-alone gadget like this. The battery life should definitely be better - if a decent phone can last a day or two, I'd expect a device like this to be able to last much longer than that. But I can't see how they can sell this device without a monthly subscription? Even if you don't make many AI queries, you're still consuming resources on their "rabbithole" web services. If the…

GPT3.5-level models are now insanely cheap: $1 buys you something like a Moby Dick's worth of text. STT and TTS models are getting cheaper too. I'm guessing that they are betting usage over the lifetime of the device (maybe 2 years tops?) amortizes out to a decent margin without a subscription.

It's also a lot easier to stomach a beautiful shiny teenage engineering toy that doesn't do much if you don't have to pay every month.

Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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Post by drewda »

zameermfm wrote: post #19

"AI in a Box" devices doesn't even come closer to the Apps we have today and we already carry our phones everywhere. iOS/Android and Apps go through heavy optimization, atleast by the OS to make sure battery life is managed well. I really cannot fathom the utility, position of these devices and why would people buy them except for early adopters. Accessibility, though is a big use case, I believe these newer devices…

FWIW, there already are lots of purpose built devices for accessibility for blind and visually impaired individuals: https://www.afb.org/blindness-and-low-vision/using-technolog...

Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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Post by samspenc »

kstrauser wrote: post #27

That makes me feel better about the whole project. If they were wasting their time developing a new OS from scratch instead of working on the programs running on it, I'd think they're nuts. I bought an R1 during the first pre-order and it arrived a couple days ago. In it's current form, it's not the AI from the movie "Her" that's going to manage your life for you. It's neat. It's a cool little toy that does interesti…

Yeah, I would actually expect most hardware like this to be running on some open-source OS, either Android (AOSP), Linux or some variant.

I mean, even the hardware that Meta and Amazon produce are built on top of Android / Linux variants, so I would be surprised if smaller players were writing their own custom OS these days.

Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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Post by dartos »

msephton wrote: post #17
asadm wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Market isn't an optimization problem. Market can decide what is necessary or isn't. I would pick this up for $200 if the models were running locally.

I think we all would. But realistically no $200 device is going to run models locally.

You can run models on anything if you try

Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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Post by nbzso »

Too much VC money into a gazillion startups without proper management. What can go wrong? This is the result of tech cultism and lack of proper production standards. Design Thinking is like some form of forbidden knowledge today.

So much “disruption” with no clear product use case. AI is the new dotcom boom. 190 percent hype. 10 percent actual implementation.

The startups have expectation to capitalize on testing with early adopters and naive consumers. The big companies fake their demos for likes and stock prices.

What a conundrum. We need people with real skills and clear vision. We need Skunk Works team quality to achieve something of substance.

Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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Post by Gigachad »

rjrogerto wrote: post #5

As others have commented - this is unsurprising - and makes a lot of sense from a technical perspective. Don't see this as scammy at all. And as for the product - the main qualm seems to be the lack of utility vs cost - which again does not seem scammy to me.

It’s not that it being based on android is the surprising part, it’s that they designed and sold a physical device which could be replaced with an app on the hardware you already have.

The whole device seems to be “it’s Siri but as a standalone device” and since you still have to take your phone with you, it seems to provide no value.

Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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Post by wmf »

samspenc wrote: post #33
kstrauser wrote: post #27

That makes me feel better about the whole project. If they were wasting their time developing a new OS from scratch instead of working on the programs running on it, I'd think they're nuts. I bought an R1 during the first pre-order and it arrived a couple days ago. In it's current form, it's not the AI from the movie "Her" that's going to manage your life for you. It's neat. It's a cool little toy that does interesti…

Yeah, I would actually expect most hardware like this to be running on some open-source OS, either Android (AOSP), Linux or some variant. I mean, even the hardware that Meta and Amazon produce are built on top of Android / Linux variants, so I would be surprised if smaller players were writing their own custom OS these days.

It sounds like they're using a phone SoC and generally those chips only come with Android drivers anyway.

Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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Post by yinser »

nbzso wrote: post #35

Too much VC money into a gazillion startups without proper management. What can go wrong? This is the result of tech cultism and lack of proper production standards. Design Thinking is like some form of forbidden knowledge today. So much “disruption” with no clear product use case. AI is the new dotcom boom. 190 percent hype. 10 percent actual implementation. The startups have expectation to capitalize on testing wit…

Building a physical product, launching, getting feedback. They’re in the arena and regardless of how bad the initial offering is it’s more than sitting on the sidelines demanding Skunk Works from others.
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