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All Cars Sold in the US Will Soon Have to Be Able to Automatically Avoid a Crash

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Re: All Cars Sold in the US Will Soon Have to Be Able to Automatically Avoid a Crash

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A law that prevents any FWD vehicle from going over 90 MPH, or offering significant insurance discounts, would go a long way towards reducing fatalities. There is no reason for any casual motorist to be going 91+MPH on surface streets or highways.

there are a few reasons though, like life threatening emergencies when the road is basically empty

Most vehicles on the road can't really be safely operated at 90mph, especially by the layperson, no matter the need.

Re: All Cars Sold in the US Will Soon Have to Be Able to Automatically Avoid a Crash

#32
This should work out well

I applaud the idea, but I'm quite skeptical that it will actually work, given the nature of most drivers.

> At speeds of up to 62 mph, these next-generation automatic emergency braking systems must avoid a collision with a vehicle stopped on the roadway ahead. Sounds great, but it’s worth keeping in mind that braking distance is proportional to the square of the initial speed.

It won't work, unless it also forces you to keep an appropriate braking distance from the vehicle ahead. That distance would be substantially larger, if it was raining or snowing.

Not sure if anyone that came up with this idea has actually had to drive on a highway around a major metropolitan area, but that ain't happening.

Re: All Cars Sold in the US Will Soon Have to Be Able to Automatically Avoid a Crash

#33

I posted this same comment on the other thread, but it's worth noting here too. Headline: Most Small SUVs Are Bad at Automatic Emergency Braking, IIHS Says https://www.thedrive.com/news/most-small-suvs-are-bad-at-aut... "The SUVs that participated in the test were the Subaru Forester, Honda CR-V, Toyota RAV4, Ford Escape, Mazda CX-5, Hyundai Tucson, Jeep Compass, Mitsubishi Outlander, Chevy Equinox, and the Volkswage…

My wife has a 2022 Chevy Equinox. It has engaged the automatic breaking on me several times unnecessarily but mostly it likes to use the flashing red dash light most often. We have this street with a half circle that cars park on and as you traverse the half circle it sees those cars and starts blinking like mad afraid you are going to hit them. I fear future cars will be much worse. They might force you to self driving if they make it impossible to drive the car yourself.

Re: All Cars Sold in the US Will Soon Have to Be Able to Automatically Avoid a Crash

#34

Laws to make cars smaller and drive slower will do 100x more to make crashes less deadly than fancy electronic gizmos. Not to mention all these electronics make the car much more expensive and harder to repair.

A law that prevents any FWD vehicle from going over 90 MPH, or offering significant insurance discounts, would go a long way towards reducing fatalities. There is no reason for any casual motorist to be going 91+MPH on surface streets or highways.

There are freeways in Texas with speed limits of 85 MPH. 5 MPH of wiggle room for emergencies seems like a bad idea IMO.

Re: All Cars Sold in the US Will Soon Have to Be Able to Automatically Avoid a Crash

#36

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"Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good" applies here. Good luck convincing people to give up their big cars. Or to double their trip length by driving half the speed. This is something that law makers can actually achieve.

I can't see why the insurance industry hasn't done more to "get people to give up their big cars" - SUVs, in particular. They clearly have the actuarial data showing how much damage those do.

That might require some sort of collusion to accomplish. If only one company increases rates for SUV drivers, said drivers will just switch to a lower priced competitor.

Re: All Cars Sold in the US Will Soon Have to Be Able to Automatically Avoid a Crash

#37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A law that prevents any FWD vehicle from going over 90 MPH, or offering significant insurance discounts, would go a long way towards reducing fatalities. There is no reason for any casual motorist to be going 91+MPH on surface streets or highways.

There are freeways in Texas with speed limits of 85 MPH. 5 MPH of wiggle room for emergencies seems like a bad idea IMO.

Speed limits of 85 MPH sounds like the bad idea to me.

Re: All Cars Sold in the US Will Soon Have to Be Able to Automatically Avoid a Crash

#38

Laws to make cars smaller and drive slower will do 100x more to make crashes less deadly than fancy electronic gizmos. Not to mention all these electronics make the car much more expensive and harder to repair.

A law that prevents any FWD vehicle from going over 90 MPH, or offering significant insurance discounts, would go a long way towards reducing fatalities. There is no reason for any casual motorist to be going 91+MPH on surface streets or highways.

There have been cars that can do this and even provide geofenced exceptions for motorsport, e.g. the Nissan GT-R https://www.autoblog.com/2007/12/22/nissan-gt-r-recognizes-t...

Re: All Cars Sold in the US Will Soon Have to Be Able to Automatically Avoid a Crash

#39

Laws to make cars smaller and drive slower will do 100x more to make crashes less deadly than fancy electronic gizmos. Not to mention all these electronics make the car much more expensive and harder to repair.

"Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good" applies here. Good luck convincing people to give up their big cars. Or to double their trip length by driving half the speed. This is something that law makers can actually achieve.

Significantly reducing the maximum speed of passenger vehicles would cause millions of Americans to suddenly have untenable commute times.

There are a handful of cities here with mass transit systems that aren't an absolute joke. Everyone who lives outside those cities relies on a car. What you're describing would be political suicide.

Re: All Cars Sold in the US Will Soon Have to Be Able to Automatically Avoid a Crash

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post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are freeways in Texas with speed limits of 85 MPH. 5 MPH of wiggle room for emergencies seems like a bad idea IMO.

Speed limits of 85 MPH sounds like the bad idea to me.

Clearly the experienced highway engineers in charge balancing a ton of different variables to make the Texas road network function in accordance with its design goals should have sought your advice.
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