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Don't Just Say "Hello" in Chat

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Re: Don't Just Say "Hello" in Chat

#31
Instead of nohello.com, why not just have emailmeinstead.com?

Everyone has their different communication preferences.

Personally I have never felt like the no-hello thing is worth caring about - its chat, just let it happen. It is not like you are trapped there unable to do anything else waiting for them to type their question. Just ignore it until it is worth responding to and get on with your day?

Re: Don't Just Say "Hello" in Chat

#32
post #18

The other person isn't necessarily waiting for the response. At the least, its a communication that you are about to ask them something, i.e. check back here in the next minute or so while I type out my question. Also, "Hi" is a good way of finding out if a person is present, sometimes you might ask to call them instead of typing your question. It also might be the case there are multiple people who can answer the qu…

If you might ask to call, just ask to call. "Hi! I have a question about X that would be easier to explain on a call. Do you have time to hop on a call for 5 mins?" is a better way to start the conversation by a factor of about 10,000. You can even send this to 3 or 4 people and let anyone who doesn't respond first say you caught so-and-so first and are good to go now. Or just delete the message.

I would not send out multiple "Do you have time to hop on a call for 5 mins?" b/c then they might call me before I delete the message.

Re: Don't Just Say "Hello" in Chat

#34

I think the problem is that the receiver wants to be polite and answer. And the sender wants to be polite and not interrupt[1]. So the extended etiquette is: if you don’t have time, it’s ok to not reply. [1] There’s also the concern that your message appears on someone’s shared screen during a video call.

> I think the problem is that the receiver wants to be polite and answer. And the sender wants to be polite and not interrupt[1].

It seems that both of these problems would be solved if the sender just gets to the point?

Re: Don't Just Say "Hello" in Chat

#35
post #20

The other person isn't necessarily waiting for the response. At the least, its a communication that you are about to ask them something, i.e. check back here in the next minute or so while I type out my question. Also, "Hi" is a good way of finding out if a person is present, sometimes you might ask to call them instead of typing your question. It also might be the case there are multiple people who can answer the qu…

Or you can achieve exactly the same thing by just sending whatever message you were going to send anyway.

But I might not send it anyway, that's the issue.

Re: Don't Just Say "Hello" in Chat

#36
post #8

> It's as if you called someone on the phone and said "Hi!" and then put them on hold! Typically you both say a greeting then a conversation starts. > Instead of being polite, you are just making the other person wait for you to phrase your question, which is lost productivity. Please don't count every second of your life in productivity lost to someone else. The root of the problem might be frustration with not gett…

How do you know it takes three seconds for the other party to continue the conversation they started? It can just as well go like this: - Bob writes "Hi" and I get a notification - I enter the chat and wait for Bob - 30 seconds later the indicator shows he's typing something - 30 seconds later, still nothing - 30 seconds later the typing indicator goes away - I go away. Eventually Bob follows up with the actual conte…

While I agree that's frustrating, you can be doing something else in that 90 seconds, can't you? Normally chats give a notification of some sort when there's a response. And by taking that long, Bob can't be expecting an immediate reply.

Re: Don't Just Say "Hello" in Chat

#38

> It's as if you called someone on the phone and said "Hi!" and then put them on hold! Typically you both say a greeting then a conversation starts. > Instead of being polite, you are just making the other person wait for you to phrase your question, which is lost productivity. Please don't count every second of your life in productivity lost to someone else. The root of the problem might be frustration with not gett…

It doesn’t take the sender any more time to write “hi””my question is: xyz”.

Maybe the soft return is the key here. When I ask a question via slack it’s a single carefully formatted message, while my most irritating correspondents send multiple messages to convey a single question.

Oh, and don’t paste 80k log files in a message. make it easy for me to respond

Re: Don't Just Say "Hello" in Chat

#39

The other person isn't necessarily waiting for the response. At the least, its a communication that you are about to ask them something, i.e. check back here in the next minute or so while I type out my question. Also, "Hi" is a good way of finding out if a person is present, sometimes you might ask to call them instead of typing your question. It also might be the case there are multiple people who can answer the qu…

As others have said, don't ask to ask. And don't make me have to divide my attention, checking to see or waiting for something you may or may not eventually ask.

Oh by the way, I have a follow up question....

Re: Don't Just Say "Hello" in Chat

#40

I think it's a South African thing, but just about any call I receive from a number I wouldn't be expected to recognize, be it from cold calling spammers or legit service providers, starts with "Hello, how are you?" to which I respond with "Sorry, do I know you?". I wish call centres and companies would explain to their agents that it's not like approaching a customer who has walked into a physical shop where the cus…

In the U.S., the norm is to start with, "Hi, this is with . May I speak to ?" and you're right, it's vastly better! Even when they're lying, at least I know what they're lying about! If they say they're calling about my car warranty or some other common scam, I can just hang up and they won't have a recording of my voice saying anything but hello.

The one that really gets me is when a doctor's office calls me about something, but their outgoing number is different from the number I have to call to reach them, and then they start asking me authenticating questions like my DOB and address.

No, buddy. You just called me from a number I do t recognize. I'm not going to give you identifying information!

Then they offer to give me a number where I can call them back, as though that resolves the issue. I'll call you back at your published number, where I always call you, but any old scammer could give me any old number to call them back and it wouldn't make it legitimate.

I just wish they would stop training all their patients to be scam victims.

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