Notice how it's never men doing stupidly risky stuff to try to look young and beautiful. The societal pressure on women to look young and beautiful is ridiculous. And influential women actively promoting such garbage is part of the problem. Men get former Mr. Universe's modeling "eat right and exercise." (Arnold in case you aren't getting the reference.) Women get this kind of crap.
Three women contract HIV from dirty "vampire facials" at unlicensed spa
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Re: Three women contract HIV from dirty "vampire facials" at unlicensed spa
#32Just a meta-observation on the discourse here. I'm _shocked_ that the discourse on ArsTechnica for this story seems civilized while here on HN it's all (so far) snark.
Really? HN has been a mini-Reddit for quite some time now. Frequently just a bunch of low quality, unfunny and recycled one-liners hoping to grab a few precious internet points.
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#33Notice how it's never men doing stupidly risky stuff to try to look young and beautiful. The societal pressure on women to look young and beautiful is ridiculous. And influential women actively promoting such garbage is part of the problem. Men get former Mr. Universe's modeling "eat right and exercise." (Arnold in case you aren't getting the reference.) Women get this kind of crap.
Steroid use is increasingly common among "hobby bodybuilders", a predominantly male demographic, which has all sorts of nasty side effects. Now there are apparently also procedures where young men break their bones to gain a few centimeters in height.
While cosmetic procedures aren't as common among men as they are in women, they're getting increasingly popular. So saying its "never" men is a huuuuuuuugeeee stretch.
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#34The silver lining is that they are lucky to have contracted HIV rather than some of the nastier stuff. There are plenty of worse reality checks.
How manageable is HIV these days?
I would definitely group HIV with the "nastier stuff".
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#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
Oh, we do our share of dumb shit too. Ever heard of synthol or jelqing?
No, never heard of them. And didn't claim you don't. But it's not this shit in the name of youth and beauty.
Yeah its shit in the name of a bigger biceps and a bigger junk, I don't see how that is any better?
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#36Who knew that there might be risks from injecting pieces of other people's bodies into your own?
Well, it's supposed to be injecting bits of your own body. But when the place doesn't even own an autoclave and reuses disposable equipment, I suppose you get what you pay for.
that's not always the case -- there are plenty of places where the prices are rocket-level but services dismal
you can hide a lot using marketing...
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#37Notice how it's never men doing stupidly risky stuff to try to look young and beautiful. The societal pressure on women to look young and beautiful is ridiculous. And influential women actively promoting such garbage is part of the problem. Men get former Mr. Universe's modeling "eat right and exercise." (Arnold in case you aren't getting the reference.) Women get this kind of crap.
I’m sure you realize that Arnold didn’t get that big just through chicken and broccoli…
He also apparently has a heart condition that might have killed him had he not been a fitness nut. Instead, he had heart surgery and called someone in Hollywood from his hospital bed to be emotionally supportive when their movie was doing poorly which just made the guy go something like "Oh. He's hospitalized and calling me to cheer me up. It's worse than I feared!"
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#38Just a meta-observation on the discourse here. I'm _shocked_ that the discourse on ArsTechnica for this story seems civilized while here on HN it's all (so far) snark.
Really? HN has been a mini-Reddit for quite some time now. Frequently just a bunch of low quality, unfunny and recycled one-liners hoping to grab a few precious internet points.
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#39Who knew that there might be risks from injecting pieces of other people's bodies into your own?
> injecting pieces of other people's bodies I've had this done. They draw your own blood and run it through a centrifuge to extract the plasma. there is NO reason the people getting this should have had to worry if not for the complete and other negligence and callousness of th clinic.
without really any supporting evidence for efficacy, why? not snark, curiosity.
>there is NO reason the people getting this should have had to worry if not for the complete and other negligence and callousness of th clinic.
this is true of tattoo parlors, too -- but they are a common and repeated disease vector even under regulation.
Someone gets sick, they close and re-hire under a new proprietor. The practices clean up for awhile, until they aren't.
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#40Notice how it's never men doing stupidly risky stuff to try to look young and beautiful. The societal pressure on women to look young and beautiful is ridiculous. And influential women actively promoting such garbage is part of the problem. Men get former Mr. Universe's modeling "eat right and exercise." (Arnold in case you aren't getting the reference.) Women get this kind of crap.
> Notice how it's never men doing stupidly risky stuff to try to look young and beautiful. Steroid use is increasingly common among "hobby bodybuilders", a predominantly male demographic, which has all sorts of nasty side effects. Now there are apparently also procedures where young men break their bones to gain a few centimeters in height. While cosmetic procedures aren't as common among men as they are in women, th…
Unless you want to insist modern medicine has deep flaws and needs a major overhaul. Good luck getting taken seriously with such opinions.