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Re: Pixiv Blocks Adult Content, but Only for US and UK Users

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Post by k12sosse »

kelipso wrote: post #17
blackeyeblitzar wrote: post #13

I don’t get the recent moral fight against adult content. Not just in terms of illustrations or graphical novels as described here, but also other recent developments like identity verification laws for porn, or laws against AI-generated content (like deepfakes). We all have imaginations. People fantasize about their partner, or celebrities, or someone they are interested in. It’s normal. It’s just thought and expres…

There's been wider awareness of how pornography is harmful to boys especially, and also to men. The drive to restrict pornography from children and relegation of pornography to seedier parts of the internet makes complete sense as a response to this.

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Re: Pixiv Blocks Adult Content, but Only for US and UK Users

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Post by miki123211 »

SV_BubbleTime wrote: post #6
bluefirebrand wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am friends with some artists who do some NSFW content and they feel they are just being strangled off of the internet at this point Even ones that are just looking for a place to have easy hosting and sharing of images are being pushed off of more and more sites

I’m actually quite optimistic about this! Yes! Push the porn to the “dark web”. Make it a pain in the ass. Ask for ID. Go all out!! …because… this is how we’ll get a free internet again. This is how we’ll get real encrypted networks. This is how we go back to the good internet - except - it’s going to be harder to remove the bad stuff. But this is what they’re doing. Strangling themselves with faux-morality and New P…

Not if the only computing platform you have is a walled-garden smartphone with parental spyware.

The only reason we had a free internet in the first place was because we had free computers. Many people no longer have free computers.

It's not just the App Stores that are at fault here, almost unbeatable screen time[1] protections, limited mobile APIs, battery usage optimizations and carrier-grade NATs also matter here.

Hosting video is extremely expensive. Either you fund it with ads, which is hard for porn, with subscriptions, which is impossible because of Visa/Mastercard rules, with cryptocurrencies, which are easy to ban as per above, or you offload the cost to P2P, but smartphones are effectively barred from participating in P2P networks due to the above reasons.

This is also a major driver behind the fall of piracy. Piracy is easy if everybody has an always-on device with a stable internet connection and a good power source. This is no longer the case.

[1] By "Screen Time" I mean Apple's comprehensive suite of tools for device access restrictions, both for owners and children. These restrictions don't just concern screen time, they may also prohibit certain apps (or categories of apps) entirely. The point is not restricted to Apple, similar solutions exist for Android, and they give even more power to the parents due to the system's open nature.

Re: Pixiv Blocks Adult Content, but Only for US and UK Users

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Post by minebreaker »

koito17 wrote: post #27
minebreaker wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> A lot of Japanese illustrators were already treating it as an afterthought compared to X/Twitter Citation needed. Most Japanese illustrators do not care about the US/EU, and many of them even hate gaijins. If you haven't noticed, anti-Americanism is very strong on the Japanese internet.

I think it depends on which slice of the Japanese internet. The こどおじ who discuss politics all day match your description. Other people, not so much. The statement about not caring about US/EU is true, however. I think most of HN is unaware that many Japanese sites take one step further and block all non-Japanese traffic.

Fair enough, but I assume the ben diagram of the anime fans and the こどおじ are largely overlapping.

Re: Pixiv Blocks Adult Content, but Only for US and UK Users

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Post by riffic »

userbinator wrote: post #25
riffic wrote: post #7

> users whose account region is set to the US or UK there seems to be a really simple workaround unless I'm missing something. By the way if a website asks me for my date / year of birth it's always 1969 because why the fuck not? specifically 1969-12-31

1969-07-20 might be a more memorable date to some people here. 1941-12-07 could be suitable for a Japanese site.

I'm making a snarky allusion to the default date for a blank date field

Re: Pixiv Blocks Adult Content, but Only for US and UK Users

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Post by livueta »

omoikane wrote: post #11
riffic wrote: post #7

> users whose account region is set to the US or UK there seems to be a really simple workaround unless I'm missing something. By the way if a website asks me for my date / year of birth it's always 1969 because why the fuck not? specifically 1969-12-31

I appreciate Pixiv letting users set their preferred region and actually respecting that setting, unlike Twitter which ignores the user's "country" setting and do all ad targeting using GeoIP instead.

It's especially nice given that a fair number of Japanese websites are aggressive about blocking foreign registrations even to the extent of blacklisting known VPN nodes. First thing I did upon reading this headline was confirming that my actually-created-in-Japan account hadn't ever had its location setting autoupdated by geoip.

Re: Pixiv Blocks Adult Content, but Only for US and UK Users

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Post by gjsman-1000 »

commandlinefan wrote: post #2

I've been thinking all my adult life that, eventually, society has _got_ to get more reasonable about the human body but... there doesn't seem to be any evidence that we're getting anywhere close anytime soon.

Define “reasonable.”

Do we treat the human body closer to that of animal? If so, why is cannibalism a crime? Animals rape, why should humans not, if we are just animals?

If we reject that and say that a human has dignity that an animal or a plant does not; why should a dignified creature act as a beast? Who is to say that this dignity cannot extend to the sexual sphere in dress and conduct?

We already accept this. Just because an animal rapes, does not preclude permanently imprisoning a human, solely for violating that dignity. It follows then, what is suitable for animals, is in no way a certain or relevant guide for how humans should behave.

This is not even necessarily a religious point. One of the most-banned pieces of material by the Chinese Firewall is not material that opposes the government - but porn, which is illegal there despite being an avowedly atheist society. Japan was never a Christian society, but their censorship practices for porn are well known.

Re: Pixiv Blocks Adult Content, but Only for US and UK Users

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Post by dotnet00 »

KennyBlanken wrote: post #22
wakawaka28 wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>In terms of geographies - one thing I read about recently is how various “online safety czars” from countries are coordinating in groups that may soon have the power to implement global content restrictions (censorship) that respect each other’s local requests on a global scale. Thankfully, this dystopian wet dream is unlikely to go far. Censorship "Czars" cannot legally disregard the laws and constitutions of their…

>In the US, we have the First Amendment, and no politician or bureaucrat has the authority to censor speech generally. But businesses do. You're about fifty years out of date: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Mountain_Mandate Christian nationalists long ago figured out they were losing the censorship battle with the postal service and governmnt...they long ago shifted to influencing every aspect of society, and on…

It isn't just coming from "Christian Nationalists", hard 'progressive' rags have also been on a puritan streak in recent years when it relates to conventional attractiveness (especially in anime and adjacent circles). As a current ongoing matter there are all the hit pieces and whining from games journalists on how Stellar Blade's character designs are for "porn addicts".

Re: Pixiv Blocks Adult Content, but Only for US and UK Users

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Post by Mountain_Skies »

Interesting to see many of the people who cheered this type of thing when people with ideological views that don't align with their own got shut out of the financial system now are upset that similar tactics are being used against them or content they like. They were even warned that this type of thing would end up used against them but they were sure we were in a new age where only one way of thinking would be permitted and that way would be their way. Turns out these tools can be weaponized against those who promoted them coming into existence. Doctor Frankenstein would be amused it still happens.

Re: Pixiv Blocks Adult Content, but Only for US and UK Users

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Post by dotnet00 »

minebreaker wrote: post #30
_23sd wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure what you're on about, it has nothing to do with being anti-American or not. Twitter is where everyone in Japanese creative industries posts about their work (unlike the West that didn't change when Musk bought the site), it's where the Japanese audience is, and it doesn't hurt that the global audience is there too. But sure, if you want examples of this trend try searching Pixiv by title for stuff like "twit…

Well, they still multipost on Twitter, but AFAICT it's getting unpopular these days. Tough I agree that Pixiv is not as popular as its old days too. By "anti-Americanism", I'm insisting that a good number of Japanese anime artists see the ban as a beneficial feature, not a disadvantage. They would see this as an automated "Sorry, Japanese Only" filter.

I think the anti-Americanism among artists only relates to not wanting to deal with hypocritical American policies on nudity and their tendency to impose their views on everyone.

They're very likely perfectly fine with Americans and foreigners in general seeing and sharing work without trying to change the culture of the site (which is fair and something more communities need to start expecting, there's an increasingly popular idea that various hobbies have been ruined by uninvested "tourists" that come into the community, force it to change to accomodate them, then leave after the original audience has been alienated).

Re: Pixiv Blocks Adult Content, but Only for US and UK Users

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Post by gjsman-1000 »

dotnet00 wrote: post #37
KennyBlanken wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>In the US, we have the First Amendment, and no politician or bureaucrat has the authority to censor speech generally. But businesses do. You're about fifty years out of date: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Mountain_Mandate Christian nationalists long ago figured out they were losing the censorship battle with the postal service and governmnt...they long ago shifted to influencing every aspect of society, and on…

It isn't just coming from "Christian Nationalists", hard 'progressive' rags have also been on a puritan streak in recent years when it relates to conventional attractiveness (especially in anime and adjacent circles). As a current ongoing matter there are all the hit pieces and whining from games journalists on how Stellar Blade's character designs are for "porn addicts".

It’s also worth noting that pornography is illegal in Islamic countries, and even illegal in avowedly atheist countries like China (guess what else the firewall blocks).
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