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Google scraps minimum wage, benefits rules for suppliers and staffing firms

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Re: Google scraps minimum wage, benefits rules for suppliers and staffing firms

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Exactly. I'm certain there's overwhelming retroactive support for IBM and IG Farben within Israel on the grounds that it was just business.

Not sure I understand?

I looked it up briefly.

IG Farben: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IG_Farben

> A decade later, it was a Nazi Party donor and, after the Nazi takeover of Germany in 1933, a major government contractor, providing significant material for the German war effort. Throughout that decade it purged itself of its Jewish employees; the remainder left in 1938.[9] Described as "the most notorious German industrial concern during the Third Reich",[10] in the 1940s the company relied on slave labour from concentration camps, including 30,000 from Auschwitz,[11] and was involved in medical experiments on inmates at both Auschwitz and Mauthausen.[12][13] One of its subsidiaries supplied the poison gas Zyklon B, which killed over one million people in gas chambers during the Holocaust.

IBM: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM#History

> The Nazis made extensive use of Hollerith punch card and alphabetical accounting equipment and IBM's majority-owned German subsidiary, Deutsche Hollerith Maschinen GmbH (Dehomag), supplied this equipment from the early 1930s. This equipment was critical to Nazi efforts to categorize citizens of both Germany and other nations that fell under Nazi control through ongoing censuses. This census data was used to facilitate the round-up of Jews and other targeted groups, and to catalog their movements through the machinery of the Holocaust, including internment in the concentration camps.

Because of that, I guess the critique of saying it's "just business" makes sense.

I'm not a history major, nor am well versed in what's going on in the Middle East, I'm just thankful to be from a more boring part of the world where I'm not exposed to a variety of horrors nowadays. Or at least that I live in a time where I don't have the risk of being taken to the Corner House by the KGB, which was an issue in my country under Soviet occupation.

Re: Google scraps minimum wage, benefits rules for suppliers and staffing firms

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Exactly. I'm certain there's overwhelming retroactive support for IBM and IG Farben within Israel on the grounds that it was just business.

Not sure I understand?

It's a lesson from history.

IBM computers were helping the nazis keeping track of, among other people, the jews, to better exterminate them.

Google is providing AI systems to Israel. AI systems are used to target and exterminate Gaza residents.

Re: Google scraps minimum wage, benefits rules for suppliers and staffing firms

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I shifted to Fastmail because people here tend to recommend it and I wanted less google in my life. Two things I didn’t expect was a better web UI and better spam filtering. On top of that I can write to human support and they are both responsive and seem knowledgeable.

Found the same with Zoho, and it's free. Used it because I didn't really care about the account and expected some shitty roundcube thing, but have been blown away. The app, website, and spam filtering absolutely crush what Gmail is offering.

> Used it because I didn't really care about the account and expected some shitty roundcube thing, but have been blown away.

For what it's worth, I self host a few e-mail servers and modern Roundcube is actually a pleasant experience, even if I like connecting Thunderbird directly.

Here's the mail server I like: https://github.com/docker-mailserver/docker-mailserver

I still very much rely on some cloud vendor e-mails for uptime and deliverability, though. Otherwise, with random VPSes you risk the IPs having bad reputation or having a plethora of issues (such as some providers not allowing e-mail ports).

Re: Google scraps minimum wage, benefits rules for suppliers and staffing firms

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Google has really shifted their “vibe”. The constant layoffs, deals with the Israeli military, shuttering daycare etc. They don’t seem to care anymore. While I didn’t care too much about all my email going to a google system Ive definitely been looking for an alternative lately.

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Re: Google scraps minimum wage, benefits rules for suppliers and staffing firms

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Not according to the United Nations and the BBC https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68625406 "The United Nations children's agency, Unicef, says 13,000 children in Gaza have been killed by Israel since the war began"

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Re: Google scraps minimum wage, benefits rules for suppliers and staffing firms

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Not according to the United Nations and the BBC https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68625406 "The United Nations children's agency, Unicef, says 13,000 children in Gaza have been killed by Israel since the war began"

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If they believe the numbers then I'm inclined to trust the United Nations and the BBC, but just in case, here's some fact checking from The Guardian

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/26/can-we-trust-c...

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Omar Shakir, the Israel and Palestine director at Human Rights Watch, said he saw no evidence that the numbers were being manipulated.

“We have been monitoring human rights abuses in the Gaza Strip for three decades, including several rounds of hostilities. We’ve generally found the data that comes out of the ministry of health to be reliable,” he said.

“When we have done our own independent investigations around particular strikes, and we’ve compared those figures against those from the health ministry, there haven’t been major deviations.

“Their numbers generally are consistent with what we’re seeing on the ground in recent days. There have been hundreds of airstrikes per day in one of the most densely populated areas of the world.

“We’ve looked at satellite imagery. We’ve seen the number of buildings, and the numbers that are coming out are in line with what we would expect with what we’re seeing on the ground. So you put all those things together and we’re quite confident in the overall casualty numbers.”

Re: Google scraps minimum wage, benefits rules for suppliers and staffing firms

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Google has really shifted their “vibe”. The constant layoffs, deals with the Israeli military, shuttering daycare etc. They don’t seem to care anymore. While I didn’t care too much about all my email going to a google system Ive definitely been looking for an alternative lately.

I'm just nit picking, but all your email on one end at least is probably going to end up to a google system anyway lol.

Yeah, but by leaving gmail, Google's artificial "intelligence" can't randomly decide to take your digital life away from you.

Also, in most cases, the other end an email isn't a gmail user but a corporate bot. So Google may actually not have all your emails if you move away from it.

Re: Google scraps minimum wage, benefits rules for suppliers and staffing firms

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If they believe the numbers then I'm inclined to trust the United Nations and the BBC, but just in case, here's some fact checking from The Guardian https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/26/can-we-trust-c... -- Omar Shakir, the Israel and Palestine director at Human Rights Watch, said he saw no evidence that the numbers were being manipulated. “We have been monitoring human rights abuses in the Gaza Strip for th…

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Re: Google scraps minimum wage, benefits rules for suppliers and staffing firms

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Here in the UK the minimum wage act was introduced in 1998. It was sold to the public as a way to stop employers abusing employees by under paying them and to prevent slave wages. Constantly stating the so called "sweat shops" (the clothing manufacturing factories) in the north of England employing foreign and illegal workers and paying them a poultry £2 per hour. What really happened was this: Early on it was quite…

I personally prefer the Swedish system of wages set by union negotiations instead of having a state minimum wage.

There should obviously be special wages for particularly strenuous work, that leaves people exhausted and for certain professions that have special characteristics, and that's not for the government to decide, rather it must be set by collective agreements between large groups of workers and employers.

Politics and laws are too slow, and this provides an intermediate flexibility level in-between politics and direct negotiation.

It's at odds with some EU law though, which is a huge problem. It's designed to work in a closed system, so when people can bring in strikebreakers from abroad there's a major problem which will eventually have be solved at the EU level, or we'll eventually be unable to remain (since this is more core to our politics than our EU membership).

Re: Google scraps minimum wage, benefits rules for suppliers and staffing firms

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If they believe the numbers then I'm inclined to trust the United Nations and the BBC, but just in case, here's some fact checking from The Guardian https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/26/can-we-trust-c... -- Omar Shakir, the Israel and Palestine director at Human Rights Watch, said he saw no evidence that the numbers were being manipulated. “We have been monitoring human rights abuses in the Gaza Strip for th…

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That article says the casualty numbers coming out of Gaza are generally legitimate, and it says ~3,000 children were killed as of October 2023.

For a March 2024 casualty update, ~13,000 children killed seems, sadly, plausible.

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