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AltStore PAL, the first alternative app marketplace on iPhone, is available now

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Re: AltStore PAL, the first alternative app marketplace on iPhone, is available now

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Whose fault is it that it has to be a paid app store? Blame Apple for their ridiculous policies that essentially require it.

I never mentioned anything about the fee, just that you have to use a different store.

A different store than what, Delta wasn't even available on the app store until earlier today!

And the irony is that they had to develop the entire store just so that they could bypass the walled garden.

Re: AltStore PAL, the first alternative app marketplace on iPhone, is available now

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post #15

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Because... the developer didn't swallow Apple's fee for you? Your decision is to pay Apple's fee that they claim is fair, or not use the app. I don't really see how we can shake our fists at the developers and publishers for not sponsoring the distribution of their FOSS app. It's very clearly the Unity-esque installation fee that is the problem here.

Um... no where did I mention anything about the fee... They could have put the app on the app store on the EU and on their store. But did not.

They tried to put their app on the App store since 2016! Apple refused, for EIGHT years! Then they developed their own version of an indie app store so that they can actually distribute the emulator because of that.

Apple only allowed it to be published on the app store TODAY, just the day of the release of the AltStore because they are trying to make a point, the malice is on Apple's side here. But the comments here make it sounds like it works on their all most hardcore fanbase.

Re: AltStore PAL, the first alternative app marketplace on iPhone, is available now

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I never mentioned anything about the fee, just that you have to use a different store.

A different store than what, Delta wasn't even available on the app store until earlier today! And the irony is that they had to develop the entire store just so that they could bypass the walled garden.

> A different store than what, Delta wasn't even available on the app store until earlier today!

And unless I am missing something it wasn't available on this alternative store until today. What does that change about the conversation?

> And the irony is that they had to develop the entire store just so that they could bypass the walled garden.

Clearly not since it is available on the Apple App Store in every country other than the EU.

Re: AltStore PAL, the first alternative app marketplace on iPhone, is available now

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post #15

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Um... no where did I mention anything about the fee... They could have put the app on the app store on the EU and on their store. But did not.

They tried to put their app on the App store since 2016! Apple refused, for EIGHT years! Then they developed their own version of an indie app store so that they can actually distribute the emulator because of that. Apple only allowed it to be published on the app store TODAY, just the day of the release of the AltStore because they are trying to make a point, the malice is on Apple's side here. But the comments here…

I think it was last week we were talking about a different emulator that was approved, so let's not try to jump to conclusions about why Apple may or may not have done something.

I have not seen anything that the release on the App Store was held up by apple and that this wasn't just instead an simultaneous release on both platforms by the developer.

Yes Apple did not previously allow this until they changed their policy recently to allow emulation (which I think was about a month ago).

This does not change the fact that the developer is choosing to put the app on the App Store everywhere except for the EU, and in the EU you have to use their store.

Re: AltStore PAL, the first alternative app marketplace on iPhone, is available now

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Delta for free in the regular App Store everywhere but the EU where we have to download a paid app store to install it, so it begins.

Until recently (that is, until today), Delta wasn't even available in the app store to begin with. And most likely it and that would still be without the alternative store, since Apple is only eventually allowing it to make a point.

> since Apple is only eventually allowing it to make a point.

No.. no they are not.

They clearly made a policy change and allowed another emulator on the App Store https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2024/04/apple-removes-the-fir...

Re: AltStore PAL, the first alternative app marketplace on iPhone, is available now

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"For developers who choose to agree to the new business terms, membership in the Apple Developer Program includes one million first annual installs per year for free for apps distributed from the App Store, Web Distribution, and/or alternative marketplaces."

https://developer.apple.com/support/core-technology-fee/

This is what some commenters here don't understand when they criticize the developer for not offering a free App Store version in the EU. Once a developer distributes outside the App Store in the EU, Apple applies the CTF to everything the developer distributes in the EU, whether inside or outside the App Store. Financially, there's no way that they could offer a free version in the EU.

Also note: "Developers of alternative app marketplaces will pay the Core Technology Fee for every first annual install of their app marketplace, including installs that occur before one million."

Re: AltStore PAL, the first alternative app marketplace on iPhone, is available now

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post #34

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A different store than what, Delta wasn't even available on the app store until earlier today! And the irony is that they had to develop the entire store just so that they could bypass the walled garden.

> A different store than what, Delta wasn't even available on the app store until earlier today! And unless I am missing something it wasn't available on this alternative store until today. What does that change about the conversation? > And the irony is that they had to develop the entire store just so that they could bypass the walled garden. Clearly not since it is available on the Apple App Store in every country…

It was available on the not PAL AltStore. AltStore was originally created to distribute Delta because Apple wouldn't allow it.
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