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Re: TwitchAdSolutions – Blocking Twitch Ads

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Post by burrish »

ckdarby wrote: post #26
nullindividual wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is up to the streamer. Either ~3 minutes of ads per hour, or an up-front 30s of ads before you can view the stream. You would only see >1 minute of ads if they choose the first option and you hit the stream on the ad break. But I agree with you. I've bounced from many-a-stream due to up-front ads.

Streamers (like myself) can entirely not opt into affiliate and have zero ads for their viewers.

I heard from another big streamer that you doesn't get as advertised if you decide to do that sadly

Re: TwitchAdSolutions – Blocking Twitch Ads

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Post by tgmatt »

cooper_ganglia wrote: post #3

I hate how Twitch puts over a minute of pre-roll ads before you can start watching a stream. They should at least wait 60 seconds, I can't imagine how many people have chosen not to catch a new stream because they'd immediately have to sit through over a minute of ads before even getting to any content.

I regularly do this. If I go to watch a stream and I get an unskippable ad, I just leave the site entirely. Would rather watch other content.

Re: TwitchAdSolutions – Blocking Twitch Ads

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Post by simion314 »

rtyrtyrt wrote: post #13
cooper_ganglia wrote: post #3

I hate how Twitch puts over a minute of pre-roll ads before you can start watching a stream. They should at least wait 60 seconds, I can't imagine how many people have chosen not to catch a new stream because they'd immediately have to sit through over a minute of ads before even getting to any content.

I am not sure how people are not making the connection but this is directly tied to the economy and interest rates. Unprofitable platforms or barely profitable had relied on advertising before interest rates go up. Advertisers are increasing their costs and platforms can only insert more ads anywhere they can. Roku anyone? The key point is platforms are fully aware of what they are doing and understand that this will…

Like super profitable businesses stopped squeezing for more money? Every shit business person will try to get a promotion and buy a new expensive car and yacht and the only way to do that is make even more profit, so most of the time the quality of the product or service goes down.

There might be a correlation with the economy, where they need to triple down on the enshitification but it could be cultural, "the other managers did this shit and they bought soem cool sports car, I am better then them I will buy 2 cars"

Re: TwitchAdSolutions – Blocking Twitch Ads

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Post by wnevets »

cooper_ganglia wrote: post #3

I hate how Twitch puts over a minute of pre-roll ads before you can start watching a stream. They should at least wait 60 seconds, I can't imagine how many people have chosen not to catch a new stream because they'd immediately have to sit through over a minute of ads before even getting to any content.

> I can't imagine how many people have chosen not to catch a new stream because they'd immediately have to sit through over a minute of ads before even getting to any content.

I've actually stopped trying to look for new streamers to watch because of it.

Re: TwitchAdSolutions – Blocking Twitch Ads

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Post by azemetre »

loceng wrote: post #15
nobleach wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This definitely kills the low-intent watcher. Twitch sends me daily emails to hop on and watch streamers that I follow. Every once in awhile, I'm not busy so I click the link, "Sure I'll watch that person write OCaml...". And 30 seconds in, I'm almost ALWAYS, "nah... I'm not into sitting here this long, I didn't even intend to be here". If they could let someone watch like 3 to 5 minutes, they could likely increase e…

You'd think or hope they'd be tracking, A/B testing to see how this goes - and I wonder if incentives are perfectly aligned between Twitch's profits-costs and of the streamers they have to share ad revenues with?

It might also give worse insights on how you interpret the data. I'd imagine that those with huge followers/events will have most people grit through the ads. I myself do this when watching esports tournaments. I don't mind the pre-roll because I'll be there for 30+ minutes.

But as you and the other poster mentioned, that wouldn't necessarily be true for smaller streamers. In fact I share the sentiments posted elsewhere; where if you want to check out a smaller channel but don't want to waste 1.5 mins in ads. I'll just immediately bounce.

It's a doom cycle were those with popularity will always out compete smaller streamers. Smaller streamers get cannibalized by site's practices.

The only thing missing is a competitor but as we see from past competitor's streamers/viewers seem to be a very fickle bunch. They like the platform not the streamers, but the platform is now hostile.

Re: TwitchAdSolutions – Blocking Twitch Ads

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Post by gred »

wnevets wrote: post #34
cooper_ganglia wrote: post #3

I hate how Twitch puts over a minute of pre-roll ads before you can start watching a stream. They should at least wait 60 seconds, I can't imagine how many people have chosen not to catch a new stream because they'd immediately have to sit through over a minute of ads before even getting to any content.

> I can't imagine how many people have chosen not to catch a new stream because they'd immediately have to sit through over a minute of ads before even getting to any content. I've actually stopped trying to look for new streamers to watch because of it.

I've resorted to watching Twitch on YouTube (just watch yesterday's streams after they've been uploaded).

Re: TwitchAdSolutions – Blocking Twitch Ads

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Post by AlwaysRock »

jsheard wrote: post #2

It's incredible how much effort Twitch puts into bypassing adblockers, compared to how little effort they put into actually selling ad space. At any given time they have maybe 2 or 3 different ads in rotation, and they often resort to running ads for other Amazon services because they don't have enough real ad sales to fill the ad breaks. There was a months-long period where 95% of the ads I saw were one of two diffe…

There is surely some point of diminishing returns but the reason you see ads over and over, especially on podcasts, is that advertisers have found that people dont respond to an ad the first or 5th or 10th time you hear it. It's the xnth time you've heard it that you think huh maybe I could to do some manscaping.

Re: TwitchAdSolutions – Blocking Twitch Ads

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Post by bnycum »

cooper_ganglia wrote: post #3

I hate how Twitch puts over a minute of pre-roll ads before you can start watching a stream. They should at least wait 60 seconds, I can't imagine how many people have chosen not to catch a new stream because they'd immediately have to sit through over a minute of ads before even getting to any content.

Along with the pre-roll ad system that also causes me to nope out of a stream, their ad system just seems fairly buggy in general. I will constantly be hit with a long ad break into a stream, just for the stream to come back and another ad break rolls again. It's frustrating and I find myself on Twitch less and less. Definitely less inclined to pay for Turbo.

I don't typically mind the ads for streamers who run them between games or set aside an ad break. However if a streamer doesn't manually run the ads live streams never really have a good spot for them to automatically run. Such a double edged sword.

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