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Re: Stalwart mail server (self-hosted all-in-one mail server) now as an admin webui

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Post by jen729w »

tetrisgm wrote: post #29
jen729w wrote: post #20

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My entire script is here. https://gist.github.com/johnnydecimal/e7b1a03e26b79239363b5d... Though I've since updated that to include a .txt file as the body vs. typing it out in the email. But that's easy enough. I might have added TXT records to satisfy DKIM etc., I don't remember. There are guides on the Amazon site; I'm a bit of a dummy when it comes to this so if I worked it out it must have been obvious enough.

Tyvm! If you have pointers to find the guides that'd be appreciate just for the sake of seeing if they're a good option. I'll look either way. Ty for the help

Just the 'getting started' stuff here. Like I say I remember it being pretty obvious. The doco is good.

https://docs.aws.amazon.com/ses/

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Post by samspenc »

jen729w wrote: post #10
tetrisgm wrote: post #7

Is there a reliable solution we could use for our small startup? We want to shoot out daily emails to our users, like Bandcamp or Substack do. We could ofc use Mailchimp but always happy to explore self hosting. Would this or another solution work?

Roll your own with Amazon SES. Bang up a little script and call the CLI. for recipient in "${recipients[@]}"; do aws sesv2 send-email \ --from-email-address "$sender" \ --destination "ToAddresses=$recipient" \ --content "Simple={Subject={Data='$subject',Charset='UTF-8'},Body={Text={Data='$body',Charset='UTF-8'}}}" \ --region "$region" done I got that script from their website. Should be easy enough to knock something…

And if you are looking for an easy-to-use UI on top of SES, consider this app https://sendy.co/ which is downloadable and self-hosted.

Tbh I haven't used it in a few years but it was super useful. I see it's a one-time cost of $69 (used to be $29 but that was over a decade ago).

Re: Stalwart mail server (self-hosted all-in-one mail server) now as an admin webui

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Post by xcdzvyn »

tetrisgm wrote: post #28
julienmarie wrote: post #25

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What email warming services do is they create activity between your server and hundreds of email accounts they manage on major ISPs and they make sure to click on "not spam" if it falls under spam, and try to bring your emails to the main inbox. It's a bit of a grey area thing in fairness.

Oh cool. So that's what mailreach does? Sounds great tbh

Sounds malicious.

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Post by Brajeshwar »

jen729w wrote: post #10
tetrisgm wrote: post #7

Is there a reliable solution we could use for our small startup? We want to shoot out daily emails to our users, like Bandcamp or Substack do. We could ofc use Mailchimp but always happy to explore self hosting. Would this or another solution work?

Roll your own with Amazon SES. Bang up a little script and call the CLI. for recipient in "${recipients[@]}"; do aws sesv2 send-email \ --from-email-address "$sender" \ --destination "ToAddresses=$recipient" \ --content "Simple={Subject={Data='$subject',Charset='UTF-8'},Body={Text={Data='$body',Charset='UTF-8'}}}" \ --region "$region" done I got that script from their website. Should be easy enough to knock something…

For those using AWS SES, I have had good success with SendWithSES - https://sendwithses.com

Disclaimer: I'm in contact with the founder after stumbling on HackerNews and I'm trying to help revive this awesome and economical tool. (I'm not paid.)

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Post by j45 »

zipping1549 wrote: post #17
julienmarie wrote: post #14

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I've been using Postal Server for 2 years ( https://docs.postalserver.io/ ) sending around 50k emails / day without any issue. Just make sure you set up everything (SPF, DKIM, DMARC) correctly, including the PTR reverse lookup of your server ( really important ). Key tip: warm up your ip(s). I use mailreach.co ( it has a USD 25/m cost ), reached near 100% deliverability in a month. I now have barely have any maintena…

> Just make sure you set up everything (SPF, DKIM, DMARC) correctly, including the PTR reverse lookup of your server ( really important ). I don't know much about mail server and this must be how people feel when they watch Hollywood movie hacker moment

It's not that hard, and less work than it used to be.

Most of the movie hacker moment is often people who want to setup and configure and maintain each component of an email server manually, compared to a reasonably compiled package to allow more administration of it.

If this package isn't someone's cup of tea, products like MDaemon continue to exist and crush it for self-hosting email using a windows server just fine for the past 15-20y.

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Post by _eht »

tetrisgm wrote: post #23
_eht wrote: post #9

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The biggest issue you will likely encounter is having clean IP addresses to send from. If you have that problem solved, the next hurdle will be realizing that Stalwart is more than you would need to manage sending daily emails. If you have the IP addresses, you could just use a script that grabs email addresses to send to for the day, and ship them with a fairly straightforward SMTP daemon (sendmail) installation on…

Yeah looks like based on the replies it's more of a Gmail alternative. Which is great but not about sending so much. Have you had a chance to setup sendmail? how we've been using our own baremetal setup on hetzner (ipfs box) and could use that for sending too. Any recos on how to make sure the IP is seen as clean?

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Post by xcrunner529 »

technothrasher wrote: post #22
blackeyeblitzar wrote: post #11

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I wouldn’t want to deal with deliverability issues, which are very much a matter of quality of service and industry relationships rather than a matter of having the right software. Just use Mailchimp or Sendgrid or Amazon’s email service, pay the small service fee, send high quality email, and don’t get distracted by trying to figure out why your emails are going to spam.

I played around a bit with both Sendgrid and Amazon SES and found that actually my own exim server on a VPS with a small and reputable provider had quite a bit better deliverability than either of those.

Yep used an Exim setup on a VPS for years for a small traffic site with little issue. I’m running something still on there but a little more modern docker setup with DKIM etc.

Re: Stalwart mail server (self-hosted all-in-one mail server) now as an admin webui

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Post by jonotime »

This is fantastic. I'm in the process of setting up a personal mail server. I have played a bit with mailcow in the past but my new server is running NixOS, so I'm looking for something that has been implemented there. And happened to stumble upon stalwart for the first time today. A web admin will certainly make the switch from mailcow easier.

The other contender was getting nixos-mailserver up and running alongside postfixadmin. But with stalwart I wont have to do that wiring up.

Side note: I route outgoing messages to sendgrid.

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