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Support for Windows 10 will end in October 2025

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Re: Support for Windows 10 will end in October 2025

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I still remember when they used to say "we called it Windows 10 because it will be the last version of Windows"...

Apple did the same with Mac OS X, they stuck with it for 16 releases. Then Big Sur came out as MacOS 11.

AFAIK they never said anything about OS X being “the last version of MacOS”. So no, they did not do anything like that.

I do remember Jobs talking about it being the foundation for the next 20 years, or something like that, but without mentioning any version number.

Re: Support for Windows 10 will end in October 2025

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post #19
post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you link something official saying that? Like documentation or CEO saying that.

https://www.theverge.com/2015/5/7/8568473/windows-10-last-ve... Quoted from Jerry Nixon.

That was just an employee towing the party line at a talk.

Re: Support for Windows 10 will end in October 2025

#33
post #22

I wonder if this could be classified as an environmental crime? Microsoft are forcing to e-waste a considerable percentage of the world's computing devices, and forcing new devices to be built and consumed. And for no reason other than to force people onto Windows 11. Corporations MUST be held responsible for these actions. If not at the legal level then there must be divestment of Microsoft shares by investment grou…

Yes! My desktop PC is almost 10 years old at this point and it works perfectly, I've upgraded the CPU to an i7-4790K (the best of that generation) and added some RAM (32G total) which makes it very good for most of my work and even for occasional gaming. Thankfully I don't use windows that much, but I know I can't upgrade to windows 11, so according to Microsoft I would just have to throw it away in a year or two, wh…

I still happily develop on an i7-950 with 24GB of RAM from 13 years ago. I just haven't been able to justify the minimal performance improvements from upgrading vs all the other things my family needs.

Re: Support for Windows 10 will end in October 2025

#34

I wonder if this could be classified as an environmental crime? Microsoft are forcing to e-waste a considerable percentage of the world's computing devices, and forcing new devices to be built and consumed. And for no reason other than to force people onto Windows 11. Corporations MUST be held responsible for these actions. If not at the legal level then there must be divestment of Microsoft shares by investment grou…

I will just force my older computers onto a different OS. My wife and kids will just have to learn Linux.

Ironically this could cause the year of Linux!

Re: Support for Windows 10 will end in October 2025

#35

So much for the "last version of Windows we'll do" then. Seems my support for Microsoft might end up for good at October 2025. Might replace my aging 1080 Ti with an AMD card and start gaming on Linux. Seems the time has come to start evaluating.

4090 works fine on Linux.

Re: Support for Windows 10 will end in October 2025

#36

We started switching to macOS ARM this year (using the same Office365 and Intune for MDM) and yeah, there were a few hiccups here and there, but in general happy to be off Windows 11 (in time for our W10 devices to ease into EOL) and don't think we could be happier any other way. In the budget end the new MacBook Airs are about the same price as the low end Dell laptops we used to buy, and on the higher end the MacBo…

macOS ARM is not a solution for getting more than 10 years out of a computer. 9-10 is about the max lifecycle of a Mac, including the trailing security updates following 6-7 years of support.

Re: Support for Windows 10 will end in October 2025

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post #14

I wonder if this could be classified as an environmental crime? Microsoft are forcing to e-waste a considerable percentage of the world's computing devices, and forcing new devices to be built and consumed. And for no reason other than to force people onto Windows 11. Corporations MUST be held responsible for these actions. If not at the legal level then there must be divestment of Microsoft shares by investment grou…

Microsoft isn’t forcing anything to be e-waste. They’re dropping support for what will be a 10 year old OS. You’re not forced onto Windows 11. You just won’t get support or security patches. While people should upgrade, industries will still keep w10 around for a long time, just like they do with XP, 98, NT4, etc.

It's not a 10 year old OS unless you believe Windows 11 is a fundamentally different kernel and Win32 API version with major backwards incompatibility - which we know isn't the case.

Re: Support for Windows 10 will end in October 2025

#38

So much for the "last version of Windows we'll do" then. Seems my support for Microsoft might end up for good at October 2025. Might replace my aging 1080 Ti with an AMD card and start gaming on Linux. Seems the time has come to start evaluating.

Do it! Every day Linux is better and better than before, where as windows is... not so good.

Sure there are edge cases like having to use Libre Office instead of Word, but just think of that $100/y saving you'll be having by switching! & Possibly even get a more responsive system!

Re: Support for Windows 10 will end in October 2025

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post #14

I wonder if this could be classified as an environmental crime? Microsoft are forcing to e-waste a considerable percentage of the world's computing devices, and forcing new devices to be built and consumed. And for no reason other than to force people onto Windows 11. Corporations MUST be held responsible for these actions. If not at the legal level then there must be divestment of Microsoft shares by investment grou…

Microsoft isn’t forcing anything to be e-waste. They’re dropping support for what will be a 10 year old OS. You’re not forced onto Windows 11. You just won’t get support or security patches. While people should upgrade, industries will still keep w10 around for a long time, just like they do with XP, 98, NT4, etc.

Ostensibly this was the same deal they made with Windows XP: "We're not forcing anyone to move to Vista, we're just dropping support for XP. You don't have to upgrade if you don't want to - but of course you do want, who doesn't want to have the latest and greatest, right?"

Turned out, a lot of people accepted that deal and stayed on XP. So many that MS got increasingly upset and put up pressure by adding nag screens, etc.

I'm completely sure, should enough people here actually try and stay in Win10, they will do the same. Especially since the main motivation for Win11 seems to be additional capabilities for DRM/locking down the system, so MS has a specific motivation to get as many people as possible to switch.

Re: Support for Windows 10 will end in October 2025

#40
post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes! My desktop PC is almost 10 years old at this point and it works perfectly, I've upgraded the CPU to an i7-4790K (the best of that generation) and added some RAM (32G total) which makes it very good for most of my work and even for occasional gaming. Thankfully I don't use windows that much, but I know I can't upgrade to windows 11, so according to Microsoft I would just have to throw it away in a year or two, wh…

I still happily develop on an i7-950 with 24GB of RAM from 13 years ago. I just haven't been able to justify the minimal performance improvements from upgrading vs all the other things my family needs.

Curious, thats quite high RAM, hows the performance? Do you experience lag?
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