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Cloudflare R2 IA storage tier

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Re: Cloudflare R2 IA storage tier

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Post by kjkjadksj »

historynops wrote: post #16

A fairly unrelated point, but its so strange how companies that underpin a lot of the internet struggle in the stock market. While we all wish we had sold our tech stocks in 2021, Cloudflare still hasn't recovered.

It is bizzare. All the old guard foundations of society type companies that the world relies on for modernity have stocks that barely budge but pay out decent dividends. Maybe tech stocks that have grown to such a position should consider paying out dividends instead of failing to chase exponential stock price growth while still clearly doing a lot of productive things. I expect the shareholder boards prefer the chance of exponential wealth over steady returns and prevent this mindset from emerging.

Re: Cloudflare R2 IA storage tier

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Post by kjkjadksj »

gavinsyancey wrote: post #15

Backblaze B2 is cheaper than Cloudflare R2 IA. Hmmm

I can’t get over the fact how storage is still so expensive in 2024. Lowest you can get is probably $5 per tb a month from any of these companies. A new tb hdd is probably $25 today. Where does the money go, into c suite car payments?

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Post by internetter »

ac29 wrote: post #21
gavinsyancey wrote: post #15

Backblaze B2 is cheaper than Cloudflare R2 IA. Hmmm

Backblaze is unprofitable and publicly traded, a combination which cant last forever. They raised B2 prices 20% last year, I wouldnt be surprised to see more increases if they continue to burn through cash.

> Backblaze is unprofitable and publicly traded

So is Cloudflare

Re: Cloudflare R2 IA storage tier

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Post by fire_lake »

kjkjadksj wrote: post #32
gavinsyancey wrote: post #15

Backblaze B2 is cheaper than Cloudflare R2 IA. Hmmm

I can’t get over the fact how storage is still so expensive in 2024. Lowest you can get is probably $5 per tb a month from any of these companies. A new tb hdd is probably $25 today. Where does the money go, into c suite car payments?

It’s availability that’s expensive.

Re: Cloudflare R2 IA storage tier

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Post by Hamuko »

kjkjadksj wrote: post #32
gavinsyancey wrote: post #15

Backblaze B2 is cheaper than Cloudflare R2 IA. Hmmm

I can’t get over the fact how storage is still so expensive in 2024. Lowest you can get is probably $5 per tb a month from any of these companies. A new tb hdd is probably $25 today. Where does the money go, into c suite car payments?

All those nines cost extra.

Re: Cloudflare R2 IA storage tier

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Post by gfs »

Guzba wrote: post #23
jdmarble wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure I understand all of the nuances here (I'm no webmaster), but this is covered in the documentation you linked: > You must configure page rules to allow Cloudflare to fetch only your Backblaze B2 bucket from your domain. ... Otherwise, someone could use your domain to fetch content from another customer's public bucket. To ensure this does not happen, Cloudflare lets you use page rules to scope requests to…

The example shows leaving your bucket name in the url as a way to filter out requests to other bucket names. If you want your static site to have http://mysite.com/bucketname/index.html then I guess that's ok. But again, careful configuration and still not for every situation. I'm sure you can layer more rules to get it exactly right but I'd not be eager to layer on complex configuration through multiple service prov…

As far as I know, bucket names must be unique at other providers like AWS as well. [0]

I'm no expert but to try and protect my own domain, I use a transform rule to match a subdomain and append "/file/$MY_BUCKET_NAME" to each request. This should return a 404 for anybody who tries to inject their own bucket in the path. I could be wrong of course.

[0]: https://docs.aws.amazon.com/AmazonS3/latest/userguide/bucket...

Re: Cloudflare R2 IA storage tier

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Post by disillusioned »

fire_lake wrote: post #34
kjkjadksj wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can’t get over the fact how storage is still so expensive in 2024. Lowest you can get is probably $5 per tb a month from any of these companies. A new tb hdd is probably $25 today. Where does the money go, into c suite car payments?

It’s availability that’s expensive.

Availability, durability, etc.

Re: Cloudflare R2 IA storage tier

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Post by godelski »

kjkjadksj wrote: post #32
gavinsyancey wrote: post #15

Backblaze B2 is cheaper than Cloudflare R2 IA. Hmmm

I can’t get over the fact how storage is still so expensive in 2024. Lowest you can get is probably $5 per tb a month from any of these companies. A new tb hdd is probably $25 today. Where does the money go, into c suite car payments?

I really believe there's a missing market. I think there would be big business in building servers for homes. Where you prioritize low power usage and low noise, and do not need blazing speeds or frequent/high access. Cloud is great, but some things should still be stored at home. Home NAS systems are a bit odd and difficult to expand (nowhere near what a rack is).

My argument would be that this would be helpful with the high adaptation of things like Ring doorbells and other camera systems at home. Where people can store their own data and provides better security & privacy given you need not rely on a data connection to store that footage. It also would be extremely worthwhile if we are to see personalized LLMs become common and tools like home assistant. You wouldn't want that running off-site. In fact, I'd rather call home from my mobile LLM than call FAANG (or anyone else with teeth).

I just think buying used servers on ebay or trying to throw together a home rig is harder than it needs to be. I'm confident the demand exists but it is unfortunately a field of dreams scenario. Many people will not know they want it until it exists (I can say my parents would love this but they don't understand the first thing about technology so all they can do is complain about Google/Apple having all their data rather than express how they want to store their own).

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