Browsers are for browsing internet. So many of them are now turning into bloatware..
Or sheep in wolf's clothing – like Arc.
Can you explain what you mean by this?
Opera becomes the first major browser with built-in access to local AI models
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Re: Opera becomes the first major browser with built-in access to local AI models
#32Browsers are for browsing internet. So many of them are now turning into bloatware..
I think it's better to look at it like the old AOL client? I've used Opera on and off for ~20 years, and in that time I've seen it strive to be more like a "Web OS"
Re: Opera becomes the first major browser with built-in access to local AI models
#33Browsers are for browsing internet. So many of them are now turning into bloatware..
Long time Opera user here.
I've been meaning to move to Vivaldi, and this AI crap was the push I needed.
You can't even highlight anything in Opera without getting 3 different AI tool suggestions. It's just too much.
Re: Opera becomes the first major browser with built-in access to local AI models
#34The question I have is, why should your browser also be the interface to local AI models? Seems totally unrelated to be honest.
So I can have an AI summarise the 5000 word essay the author used an AI to write?
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#37Browsers are for browsing internet. So many of them are now turning into bloatware..
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#38Don't get me wrong, I appreciate that there is at least some effort to bring these models local instead of shoving even more personal data into servers and who knows where it is going.
But I am really frustrated by LLM's being installed into nearly everything with no real value. We still have fundemtal issues with the tech like it hallucinating and giving straight up bad information.
The idea that it is being shoved into things, being normalized, is going to bite us real hard and I frankly hope soon.
Also, like someone else said. Browsers are getting way too complicated.
Re: Opera becomes the first major browser with built-in access to local AI models
#39Browsers are for browsing internet. So many of them are now turning into bloatware..
Opera has leaned into this for decades. They have a long history of innovating in the browser space. I suppose that doesn’t happen without some bloat along the way. Not every idea is going to be a winner.
20 years ago, Opera had an email client built into the browser, for example.
I used Opera for quite a while back then, but eventually it became too much bloat, and I ended up switching to Phoenix (now Firefox) when it came out. I remember having a really hard time losing the mouse actions from Opera after the switch.
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Or sheep in wolf's clothing – like Arc.
Can you explain what you mean by this?
Their PR narrative is mostly about being an ethical, user-first company. They’ve received a tonne of investment which is spent on expensive to maintain features like AI support in search.
Someone will have to pay the bill and the general attitude when it comes to monetising browsers are adtech partnerships, not subscriptions.