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Re: Get a person at the IRS

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This reminds me of the anti pattern to delete a facebook account quicker, than even if you find the delete button Just post porn instead

File a DMCA takedown request.

against yourself?

that reminds me I know people that used to do that to get their google results curated

Re: Get a person at the IRS

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Oh don't worry. When you get an audit notice you get assigned an agent dedicated to your case. You can talk to them easily. They will talk to you all the time. It's amazing. The question and answer flow is just non ending.

But I do worry ... that I may not get an audit notice. I thought that as an American, I was entitled to one, since people go one about this all the time. In 35 years, I've never received one. Oh wait ... the audit rate is 0.38% Oh and wait again .. > Of the more than 164 million individual income tax returns filed with the IRS last year, only 626,204 were audited—down from 659,003 during fiscal year 2021. Of those 62…

The IRS gained this reputation in the 1980’s when audits were much more common and likely to happen to middle class people.

It may have been warranted, though, because Congress passed a law that required people to provide a social security number for the dependents claimed on the return. Before that, you could just claim you had a dependent without providing proof. And, lots of people did just that.

Re: Get a person at the IRS

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I have never called IRS before, but I can imagine how horrible that can be. I called banks before, It may take 50 minutes for someone to pick up the phone. I don't understand why they think live phone call serves customers better, whereas I think email is a much better option and they seem to remove this option.

If you do get hold of a live person, it can be faster and easier to talk through something synchronously rather than asynchronously exchanging emails.

Re: Get a person at the IRS

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I would not recommend calling the IRS based on phone numbers you see on GitHub, though they may be correct sometimes.

Just google the phone number to confirm it's correct, takes about 5 seconds.

"It's the top sponsored result, that automatically means it's legit." :p

Re: Get a person at the IRS

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Oh don't worry. When you get an audit notice you get assigned an agent dedicated to your case. You can talk to them easily. They will talk to you all the time. It's amazing. The question and answer flow is just non ending.

This reminds me of the anti pattern to delete a facebook account quicker, than even if you find the delete button Just post porn instead

I had to do this years ago when someone registered my email address on an online dating service, I kept getting spam from it. I sent support requests, messages, help tickets, asking for them to remove my address or change it - no response.

Used the "forgot password" link, logged in, posted porn. Account deleted in about 5 minutes.

Re: Get a person at the IRS

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It would be nice to have an overlay on your phone that displays the options of what you can press. I’ve always wanted to skip having to listen to the recorded message drone on and on before mentioning which number to press for something. Does anyone know if such an app already exists?

Google Pixel phones will do this:

https://guidebooks.google.com/pixel/optimize-your-life/use-d...

Re: Get a person at the IRS

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Like many FAANG employees, the IRS calculates my withholding incorrectly. I got a letter in January announcing that I didn't withhold enough and applying a penalty. I spent two hours on the phone on a Friday being bounced around the IRS. Talked to plenty of people, but each one thought I was someone else's problem. I tried again on that Monday: waited on the phone for two full hours before being unceremoniously hung…

IRS doesn’t calculate your withholding, you (and your employer) do. If you end up owing money at the end of the year, you probably failed to properly update your W4. For example, my employer only withholds 22% on RSU grants. It’s my responsibility to update my W4 to withhold extra from my regular pay to compensate, or make estimated quarterly tax payments.

Re: Get a person at the IRS

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Like many FAANG employees, the IRS calculates my withholding incorrectly. I got a letter in January announcing that I didn't withhold enough and applying a penalty. I spent two hours on the phone on a Friday being bounced around the IRS. Talked to plenty of people, but each one thought I was someone else's problem. I tried again on that Monday: waited on the phone for two full hours before being unceremoniously hung…

> Like many FAANG employees, the IRS calculates my withholding incorrectly. I got a letter in January announcing that I didn't withhold enough and applying a penalty.

The IRS doesn’t calculate withholding. They provide rules and default formulas to employers and payroll providers, but you can and should adjust the withholding as necessary by filing Form W-4 with your employer’s payroll department. If you can’t get enough tax withheld to avoid a penalty for whatever reason, you also have the option of paying estimated taxes four times a year directly to the IRS - but usually this is only needed for cases like freelancers where there isn’t enough withholding to pay the required tax. Normally estimated taxes would be four equal payments with specific due dates, though unequal payments can also be made.

How much do you need to have paid through withholding plus estimated taxes avoid a penalty? At least 90% of the current year’s total tax liability, or all but $1000 of that amount, or at least 100% or 110% (depending on your income) of the same amount for the previous year, whichever is lowest. The IRS has publications which discuss this. If you make unequal estimated tax payments, there are special calculations to avoid a penalty based on when in the year you get how much income.

So, if you use the formula based on your previous year’s tax liability, and don’t make unequal estimated tax payments, you’ll never have to guess and will never owe a penalty.

Re: Get a person at the IRS

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A few years ago when I had to call the Canada Revenue Agency, I got a human immediately. No machine. Just a hello/bonjour and then asking for my info and solving my problem. It was quite shocking given the stereotype that tax agencies suuuuuuuck.

Re: Get a person at the IRS

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Companies will provide you just as strong customer service if they believe you owe them money. It's the flip side that is the gauge

I made an error on my tax form one year causing the IRS to say I owed a whole year of taxes, and I was able to resolve it amicably even after they realized they weren’t going to be getting any money from me. When you are in accounts payable, the service does get better. I’m in one of those now again because we forgot to file the 1099s for the RSUs sold to satisfy my wife’s ordinary income tax on RSU grants. Of course…

Every interaction with the IRS I’ve had has been top notch, if sometimes excruciatingly slow.

That includes the “you forgot cost basis in day trading so you made fifty million dollars” letter a friend got, to the “you are an idiot and filed wrong, here’s the few grand we owe you unless you really want to contest” because of forgetting withholding.

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