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Kia recalls over 427K Telluride SUVs because they might roll away while parked

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#32
Are the new electronic emergency brakes susceptible to bugs or are they dead simple so unlikely to fail too?

The article talks about a faulty parking brake and that users should engage emergency brake. These are not the same thing I take it?

Re: Kia recalls over 427K Telluride SUVs because they might roll away while parked

#33

Don't new cars have automatic parking brakes? I drive a manual, and even if you park it in gear, with some bad luck and a slighly "worn down" engine, it'll roll, so most of the people just pull the hand brake.

I've seen a few electric vehicle models with automatic parking brakes but they literally have to use parking brakes to prevent rolling (they typically have fixed reduction gears). It's somewhat unusual on combustion cars to have automatic parking brakes.

Re: Kia recalls over 427K Telluride SUVs because they might roll away while parked

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use both in a manual. Cheap insurance. Handbrake, and in gear in case the handbrake fails. But I’ve never seen the driver of an automatic set the parking brake. Never. That gear is “park” so they use it when they park. Only driving manuals, I have to really remind myself not to in somebody else’s car because it is probably going to stick as a result of never being used.

I always use mine, but yeah I run into a lot of other automatic owners who don't. I'm guessing it starts as a habit, they either weren't taught in driving class or it wasn't enforced, then it became ingrained and they never got curious about what they could be wrong about,or what it means that their car rocks when they step out. Even with a "car guy" who was working on my rear wheels (fwd) he asked if I had AWD. No b…

All aspects of the way other people drive are horrifying but one of the worst things is drivers with automatic transmissions who don't use the parking brake, and their car lurches 6 inches when they are getting out. If you stop the car, set the parking brake, and shift into park the car will not move when you release the brake. It feels so much better and you won't look like a loser.

Re: Kia recalls over 427K Telluride SUVs because they might roll away while parked

#36

Why do people rely on automatic gearboxes to keep cars in place? Trusting the "park" position is like leaving a manual gearbox car in gear: it can do the job, but it's not the right tool for the purpose. The handbrake is there for a reason.

I use both in a manual. Cheap insurance. Handbrake, and in gear in case the handbrake fails. But I’ve never seen the driver of an automatic set the parking brake. Never. That gear is “park” so they use it when they park. Only driving manuals, I have to really remind myself not to in somebody else’s car because it is probably going to stick as a result of never being used.

When I turn off Toyota hybrid it engages parking break automatically. Why wouldn't it?

Is it possible for modern car to be off in neutral?

Re: Kia recalls over 427K Telluride SUVs because they might roll away while parked

#37

Don't new cars have automatic parking brakes? I drive a manual, and even if you park it in gear, with some bad luck and a slighly "worn down" engine, it'll roll, so most of the people just pull the hand brake.

if you've parked a manual on a steep enough grade to overcome a worn engine's compression in 1st gear, you're supposed to leave the steering cocked towards the nearest downhill obstacle, preferably against the obstacle before you even exit the vehicle. (usually it's the curb)

When I first moved to CA people would get tickets for failing to do so... but that was when police still bothered doing things. Nowadays I see more cars parked incorrectly than correctly on hills in the bay area.

Re: Kia recalls over 427K Telluride SUVs because they might roll away while parked

#39
I have a 2022 Telluride which I recently parked on a steep hill, and I did not set the parking brake. Fortunately nothing happened, but now I feel pretty dumb.

I will say it’s the best car I’ve ever owned, and it’s been the top rated 3 row SUV for awhile now. Great features for a great price. Though we did get gouged having to buy in 2022 (old car totaled).

It’s only “features” I don’t like seem to be on all new cars, like the engine turn off at a light always defaulting to on, and a too sensitive crash alert function (if the car in front you is turning, it will often think you’re going to crash when you’re not).

Re: Kia recalls over 427K Telluride SUVs because they might roll away while parked

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Are the new electronic emergency brakes susceptible to bugs or are they dead simple so unlikely to fail too? The article talks about a faulty parking brake and that users should engage emergency brake. These are not the same thing I take it?

the parking brake is what gets engaged when you put a vehicle with an automatic transmission into park.

the emergency brake is separate. usually a handle in the centre console or a small pedal on the left side of the driver side footwell.

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