ADHD Stimulants May Increase Risk of Heart Damage in Young Adults

Post by eqvinox » Thu, Mar 28, 2024, 10:49 AM UTC

Swordfish12345 wrote: post #20

Llamamoe wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, in light cases it might help, but mostly you see news/social media amplifying ableistic "look at , they're managing, why aren't you? it's obviously your lifestyle choices" But talk to any people who actually have ADHD and you'll realize that this doesn't help anyone: ADHD doesn't mean "easily distracted", it means "inability to maintain control over focus", and taking distractions away doesn't make this even ma…

> mostly you see news/social media amplifying ableistic... It's actually the opposite. It is now practically forbidden to criticize anything related with ADHD. After reading all the literature I concluded there were huge problems with almost every aspect of it. Then you go try to tell people and you are tarred and feathered. Then look at incentives: on one side is: "a citizen concerned that maybe taking stimulant med…

Post by eqvinox » Thu, Mar 28, 2024, 11:01 AM UTC

eqvinox wrote: post #30

Swordfish12345 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> they need meds to function Once you start taking meds you develop dependence and so your definitely need them. But if there was a simpler environmental cause/solution, now that is out of reach entirely. It would take years for their mind to re-balance. If you tried everything and nothing worked, then go for the meds, and take on the risks and side-effects. But no one does this. They get diagnosed and then straight…

> Once you start taking meds you develop dependence and so your definitely need them. In this generality, this statement is plain false folk tale. It certainly applies for some conditions and treatments, but without a study to back it up you should not be making this statement in regards to ADHD and its medications. > If you tried everything and nothing worked, then go for the meds, and take on the risks and side-eff…

Post by throwaway11460 » Thu, Mar 28, 2024, 12:27 PM UTC

anemoiac wrote: post #34

ttul wrote: post #5

Despite the increase in cardiac risks, stimulant medications remain the most effective treatment for ADHD in adolescents. “Treatment with ADHD medications reduces accidental injuries, traumatic brain injury, substance abuse, cigarette smoking, educational underachievement, bone fractures, sexually transmitted infections, …” ADHD is associated with a litany of negative consequences if left untreated. An increase in th…

The "Oh, well everyone has a little bit of ADHD..." opinion seems to be fairly popular, perhaps due to the increasing ubiquity of digital distractions we all encounter daily, but reading just a small amount of actual research led me to the conclusion that this is completely misguided and "real" ADHD (whatever that is) has likely left a significant amount of its victims dead, in prison, or terminally drug-addicted. On…

Post by throwaway11460 » Thu, Mar 28, 2024, 12:33 PM UTC

Swordfish12345 wrote: post #20

Llamamoe wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, in light cases it might help, but mostly you see news/social media amplifying ableistic "look at , they're managing, why aren't you? it's obviously your lifestyle choices" But talk to any people who actually have ADHD and you'll realize that this doesn't help anyone: ADHD doesn't mean "easily distracted", it means "inability to maintain control over focus", and taking distractions away doesn't make this even ma…

> mostly you see news/social media amplifying ableistic... It's actually the opposite. It is now practically forbidden to criticize anything related with ADHD. After reading all the literature I concluded there were huge problems with almost every aspect of it. Then you go try to tell people and you are tarred and feathered. Then look at incentives: on one side is: "a citizen concerned that maybe taking stimulant med…

Post by StefanBatory » Thu, Mar 28, 2024, 1:21 PM UTC

eqvinox wrote: post #33

eqvinox wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Once you start taking meds you develop dependence and so your definitely need them. In this generality, this statement is plain false folk tale. It certainly applies for some conditions and treatments, but without a study to back it up you should not be making this statement in regards to ADHD and its medications. > If you tried everything and nothing worked, then go for the meds, and take on the risks and side-eff…

> If you tried everything and nothing worked, then go for the meds, and take on the risks and side-effects. By the way — you say this with some nonchalance. Those two years of "tried everything and nothing worked" cost me my university degree.