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Re: Google's Code Editor

#31

Post by dewitt »

gouranga wrote: post #29
selectnull wrote: post #24

Last year I've used Google Apps Script to automate a spreadsheet, it worked very well and that spreadsheet is still used inside my company. It's not very complex, all together maybe 200 lines of code, with tests. But, I'm not sure if I would do it again. Development style is not enjoyable, coding inside textarea with syntax highlighting is simply not good enough. I would prefer to use my text editor and some way to d…

NOTE: this is NOT a troll. I know a great tool for the job. It works fine with source control and allows documents to be diffed and merged. The editor is 100% offline as is the product or it can be 100% online at will. No need to push changes to server - just replicate/copy. If you fancy collaboration tools you can use use extensive ones on a subscription basis. It's got a well documented SDK and an interface that yo…

I don't think you're trolling; Excel is certainly an option.

But for two things:

  Excel for Mac - $129 (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B003YCOJBC)
  Excel for Win - $121 (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0039L2XG6)
And you need a Windows box or Mac with Excel installed. I personally have access to dozens of machines, literally none of which have Excel. All of them have a web browser, and thus access to Google Spreadsheets and Google Apps Script for free. To me, and many others, that makes all the difference in the world.

Re: Google's Code Editor

#32

Post by selectnull »

gouranga wrote: post #29
selectnull wrote: post #24

Last year I've used Google Apps Script to automate a spreadsheet, it worked very well and that spreadsheet is still used inside my company. It's not very complex, all together maybe 200 lines of code, with tests. But, I'm not sure if I would do it again. Development style is not enjoyable, coding inside textarea with syntax highlighting is simply not good enough. I would prefer to use my text editor and some way to d…

NOTE: this is NOT a troll. I know a great tool for the job. It works fine with source control and allows documents to be diffed and merged. The editor is 100% offline as is the product or it can be 100% online at will. No need to push changes to server - just replicate/copy. If you fancy collaboration tools you can use use extensive ones on a subscription basis. It's got a well documented SDK and an interface that yo…

You are right, it's something I forgot to mention: we are Google Apps users. We love that product: gmail, docs, spreadsheets, now drive... our whole business is based on Apps and our own ticketing/crm/sales software.

And I don't even use Excel, I run linux, although I've used Excel a lot and I think it's awesome at what it does.

I didn't find your reply as trollish, you certainly do make a very valid point.

Re: Google's Code Editor

#33

Post by bwanab »

gouranga wrote: post #29
selectnull wrote: post #24

Last year I've used Google Apps Script to automate a spreadsheet, it worked very well and that spreadsheet is still used inside my company. It's not very complex, all together maybe 200 lines of code, with tests. But, I'm not sure if I would do it again. Development style is not enjoyable, coding inside textarea with syntax highlighting is simply not good enough. I would prefer to use my text editor and some way to d…

NOTE: this is NOT a troll. I know a great tool for the job. It works fine with source control and allows documents to be diffed and merged. The editor is 100% offline as is the product or it can be 100% online at will. No need to push changes to server - just replicate/copy. If you fancy collaboration tools you can use use extensive ones on a subscription basis. It's got a well documented SDK and an interface that yo…

But seriously, you're kidding right? Here's microsoft's answer to the diff and merge question: http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/office/forum/office_2007-...

Granted, excel is a powerful tool for an individual to work with, but for teams working with a large number of complex sheets the model breaks down quickly. Keeping up with changes and versions using excel is a nightmare.

Re: Google's Code Editor

#34

Post by gouranga »

bwanab wrote: post #33
gouranga wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

NOTE: this is NOT a troll. I know a great tool for the job. It works fine with source control and allows documents to be diffed and merged. The editor is 100% offline as is the product or it can be 100% online at will. No need to push changes to server - just replicate/copy. If you fancy collaboration tools you can use use extensive ones on a subscription basis. It's got a well documented SDK and an interface that yo…

But seriously, you're kidding right? Here's microsoft's answer to the diff and merge question: http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/office/forum/office_2007-... Granted, excel is a powerful tool for an individual to work with, but for teams working with a large number of complex sheets the model breaks down quickly. Keeping up with changes and versions using excel is a nightmare.

That's what Sharepoint is for :)

Also Word/Excel 2010 have excellent change management tools which integrate nicely with mercurial and SVN built in (under review changes).

You have to frig a couple of command line switches to get it to work but TortoiseSVN has those preconfigured.

EDIT: answers.microsoft.com is full of trash - ignore it...

Re: Google's Code Editor

#35

Post by gouranga »

dewitt wrote: post #31
gouranga wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

NOTE: this is NOT a troll. I know a great tool for the job. It works fine with source control and allows documents to be diffed and merged. The editor is 100% offline as is the product or it can be 100% online at will. No need to push changes to server - just replicate/copy. If you fancy collaboration tools you can use use extensive ones on a subscription basis. It's got a well documented SDK and an interface that yo…

I don't think you're trolling; Excel is certainly an option. But for two things: Excel for Mac - $129 (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B003YCOJBC) Excel for Win - $121 (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0039L2XG6) And you need a Windows box or Mac with Excel installed. I personally have access to dozens of machines, literally none of which have Excel. All of them have a web browser, and thus access to Google Spreadsheets and Google…

That's not a major issue.:

You can use Office 2010 web apps FREE from a SkyDrive account and openly collaborate with people or you can pay $20 a month per seat for Office 365 and you will get Sharepoint and ALL Office 2010 desktop apps.

The office web apps work perfectly in all browsers (I've tried Chrome, Firefox and IE).

Considering the cost of playing around with Google spreadsheet with those restrictions, it's possibly a good idea.

Re: Google's Code Editor

#36

Post by gouranga »

selectnull wrote: post #32
gouranga wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

NOTE: this is NOT a troll. I know a great tool for the job. It works fine with source control and allows documents to be diffed and merged. The editor is 100% offline as is the product or it can be 100% online at will. No need to push changes to server - just replicate/copy. If you fancy collaboration tools you can use use extensive ones on a subscription basis. It's got a well documented SDK and an interface that yo…

You are right, it's something I forgot to mention: we are Google Apps users. We love that product: gmail, docs, spreadsheets, now drive... our whole business is based on Apps and our own ticketing/crm/sales software. And I don't even use Excel, I run linux, although I've used Excel a lot and I think it's awesome at what it does. I didn't find your reply as trollish, you certainly do make a very valid point.

WRT to Linux, all the Office web apps work on Linux quite happily.

We tend to give senior people access to windows machines with Office 2010 Professional Plus on and relegate support staff to Linux machines with Office web apps (in Chrome).

Re: Google's Code Editor

#38

Post by mynegation »

gouranga wrote: post #29
selectnull wrote: post #24

Last year I've used Google Apps Script to automate a spreadsheet, it worked very well and that spreadsheet is still used inside my company. It's not very complex, all together maybe 200 lines of code, with tests. But, I'm not sure if I would do it again. Development style is not enjoyable, coding inside textarea with syntax highlighting is simply not good enough. I would prefer to use my text editor and some way to d…

NOTE: this is NOT a troll. I know a great tool for the job. It works fine with source control and allows documents to be diffed and merged. The editor is 100% offline as is the product or it can be 100% online at will. No need to push changes to server - just replicate/copy. If you fancy collaboration tools you can use use extensive ones on a subscription basis. It's got a well documented SDK and an interface that yo…

How come Excel works fine with source control? It is a binary blob and diff and merge are done with Excel itself, not the version control's merge and diff (which may or may not be what you want).

What are those collaboration tools for Excel? This is an honest question: all I see is some spreadsheet on shared drive or Sharepoint with some ad hoc process around editing, making sure the need for the merge is avoided.

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