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Guiding Principles for the Mormon Church's Use of AI

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Re: Guiding Principles for the Mormon Church's Use of AI

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Post by meowtimemania »

spondylosaurus wrote: post #27
qsort wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> the weird beliefs I'm an atheist and a materialist so I share basically nothing of that kind of worldview, but those beliefs aren't actually that much outside the mainstream. The Holy Ghost as the third person of the trinity powering your faith is mainstream Christianity, not weird stuff from the book of Mormon -- if you don't believe that you probably aren't a Christian at all. > Strange place for principled thoug…

I don't think the trinity is the part of Mormonism that people find weird...

A lot of the “weird” parts are getting phased out and aren’t really part of the Mormon experience anymore

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Post by literalAardvark »

meowtimemania wrote: post #32
andsoitis wrote: post #2

> Elder Gong said reliance on the Holy Spirit can help inoculate against deepfakes. How does that work?

In Mormonism the Holy Ghost basically equates to one’s intuition

Guess the holy ghost is in for a suprise then. Detecting genAI has been beyond mere intuition for months, possibly years for the less intuitive.

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Post by camhart »

meowtimemania wrote: post #32
andsoitis wrote: post #2

> Elder Gong said reliance on the Holy Spirit can help inoculate against deepfakes. How does that work?

In Mormonism the Holy Ghost basically equates to one’s intuition

I'm of this faith and I've never heard anyone describe it this way. Feelings are involved, but there's more to it. See https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/gospel-topi....

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qsort wrote: post #20
sudhirj wrote: post #7

Putting aside the weird beliefs, the principles themselves are actually pretty decent and widely applicable. Strange place for principled thought leadership to come from :-/

> the weird beliefs I'm an atheist and a materialist so I share basically nothing of that kind of worldview, but those beliefs aren't actually that much outside the mainstream. The Holy Ghost as the third person of the trinity powering your faith is mainstream Christianity, not weird stuff from the book of Mormon -- if you don't believe that you probably aren't a Christian at all. > Strange place for principled thoug…

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Re: Guiding Principles for the Mormon Church's Use of AI

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Post by mirekrusin »

pascal_blaze wrote: post #23
mtillman wrote: post #4

It’ll be interesting to see how the various cults adopt this technology. They certainly have plenty of money to acquire the hardware. The Vatican has fairly advanced computing infrastructure from what I understand as well: https://cerncourier.com/a/quantum-gravity-in-the-vatican/

The Behind The Bastards podcast was speculating about Scientology creating an AI chat phone app trained on L. Ron Hubbard's prolific output so you could chat with The Founder on your phone whenever you wanted. I doubt they'd do it though. AI Chat is too unpredictable for a cult that wants to tell each adherent exactly what to do in every part of their lives. Hubbard's writings are also likely to be wildly inconsisten…

Something tells me once logical consistency is solved problem, they'll get stuck on older versions due to compatibility issues.

Re: Guiding Principles for the Mormon Church's Use of AI

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Post by blackhawkC17 »

A bit off-topic, but can a Mormon explain the reason why Mormons have a lot of kids?

The simple answer would be religion, but even mainstream American Christians don't have kids at that level. I know a Mormon tech tycoon with 10 kids and another tycoon with 14 kids, lol

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Post by xkcd-sucks »

camhart wrote: post #29
sircastor wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm a former member of the church - From a faithful practitioner's perspective, the Holy Spirit acts as a moral guide. He's intended to help you identify right and wrong, and provide guidance in decision making. If one is living righteously you're promised to have that guidance available to you. That guidance is received personally. Most people think of it as strong feelings they have in situations. I think the idea…

> Most people think of it as strong feelings they have in situations. This is a simplification. I can be angry--that's a strong feeling. But that doesn't mean I've felt the Spirit speak to me. Feelings are certainly a part of it though. I'll be the first to admit that I haven't found a perfect simple description for the experience. Similar to asking someone to describe what "salt" tastes like--it's not the easiest th…

It seems similar to ordinary "best judgement", "careful consideration", "wisdom" etc wrapped up in some externalizing language for the most part. not to trivialize that, it is quite a feat if you can reliably cultivate those qulaities at scale
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