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USB hubs, printers, Java, and more seemingly broken by macOS 14.4 update

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Re: USB hubs, printers, Java, and more seemingly broken by macOS 14.4 update

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Post by mouse_ »

cjk2 wrote: post #4

Signed up to complain about this one. Totally cursed. I had to dig out an ancient windows laptop because I can’t roll it back and I’m shafted.

You can't roll back, but you can downgrade. Might need to be a fresh install. I'm still on High Sierra as it's the last version to support proper text rendering on most of my monitors.

Re: USB hubs, printers, Java, and more seemingly broken by macOS 14.4 update

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Post by zimpenfish »

beeboobaa wrote: post #27
nickthegreek wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

tbh, this stuff isn't going to effect 99% of the userbase and their systems will continue to just work. All 3 of my mac laptops continue to work without issue.

Plenty of java software is used by regular users. Minecraft is incredibly popular and one of the few games that (used to) run natively on mac.

Anecdata: I've put in tens of hours into Minecraft on 14.4 without a single client issue.

Re: USB hubs, printers, Java, and more seemingly broken by macOS 14.4 update

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Post by lolinder »

mike_hearn wrote: post #29
stingraycharles wrote: post #17

Ok since these types of threads are typically filled with complaints, just to add another data point: I’ve upgraded last week and have not experienced any problems at all. And yes, I’m using USB hubs, printers and even Java.

Is that on an M1? Apparently the Java issue only affects Apple silicon for some reason

Most of the time with these update problems it's way more specific than that. It'll be an Apple silicon chip with a very specific system state, creating a low number of high profile errors that are indistinguishable from random.

It's still often a good idea to wait a few days or weeks before updating just in case you're caught by the bugs, but the rates of errors are usually much lower than the mainstream media reporting would lead you to believe.

Re: USB hubs, printers, Java, and more seemingly broken by macOS 14.4 update

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Post by samstave »

ethbr1 wrote: post #13
Centigonal wrote: post #2

Ever since updating last week, one of my two monitors (connected through a CalDigit USB-C dock) won't turn back on after inactivity. I have to open up System Settings, change the resolution for the monitor, and change it back every time I leave my macbook and come back.

Have you tried a KVM switch? I have one in my setup and toggling it off and then back (via button) is a quicker way to solve freak-outs.

Oblig: https://i.imgur.com/ZNsn2PB.gif

I've always been amazed that what I think of a dumb switch (wiring) USB hubs, have connectivity problems solved by such... its a protocol handling problem. Not a circuitry issue, and there should be a command to reset USB/Peripherel reboots.

Invoking a reconnect via CLI / cmd would be great.

Re: USB hubs, printers, Java, and more seemingly broken by macOS 14.4 update

#36

Post by nameless912 »

samstave wrote: post #28
stingraycharles wrote: post #17

Ok since these types of threads are typically filled with complaints, just to add another data point: I’ve upgraded last week and have not experienced any problems at all. And yes, I’m using USB hubs, printers and even Java.

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uh...what?

Re: USB hubs, printers, Java, and more seemingly broken by macOS 14.4 update

#38

Post by JacobiX »

stingraycharles wrote: post #17

Ok since these types of threads are typically filled with complaints, just to add another data point: I’ve upgraded last week and have not experienced any problems at all. And yes, I’m using USB hubs, printers and even Java.

I've also updated my M1 Pro to macOS 14.4 and use Java (versions 21 and 17) daily with IntelliJ IDEA without encountering any issues so far even when using debuggers and profilers. Not sure how to explain it !
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